FEL bucket not staying up

[747driver]

I don't know kenny will hook you up with the correct kit

I will give them a call tomorrow.

 

[ritcheyvs]

I will give them a call tomorrow.

See: Ken's Bolt on Grab Hooks <<Hydraulics>>

 

[prichard]

A related question since there are so many knowledgeable folks here. I've always pushed my loader to float when parking it. The other day I left it up and came back not much longer and it was down. Tractor only has 70 hours on it. Any chance it's intended to be that way?

 

[4570Man]

I don't think it would be intended for a loader to leak down, but it's not that big of a deal either if it occurs over several hours or more

 

[YLee Kioti]

To all the contributors:
Thanks for all those tidbits of info on how the FEL works and the 'whys' of how probably many of us (well me for sure) unknowingly abuse our buckets.
So no more back dragging past those ten degrees.
Many videos provide do's and don't, but this platform also shares the why's.
Although at times it is a easter egg hunt, the trip is quite informative and at times entertaining as well.....
keep us up dated !

 

[747driver]

Glad you found the problem.

Lots of good info and some not so good in this thread so I'll offer my :2cents: just for future viewers.

1. No a cylinder cannot retract with faulty seals.
2. Retracting causing "drift" is usually associated with the main loader lift.
3. YES a cylinder can extend if seals are faulty.
4. Extending "drift" is usually associated with bucket cylinders or backhoe booms.

And a faulty valve leaking by internally can cause drift of any kind.

Hands down the easiest way to isolate the cylinder from the valve.....if in doubt.....is to uncouple the quick disconnects that most modern tractors are equipped with. But a word of caution is that it puts the fluid under pressure and makes it difficult to re-seat. So the method I like for testing curl cylinders is as follows....

1. Put bucket on ground.....level or slightly dumped......and disconnect curl hose QD's.
2. Raise loader in air and moniter if the bucket drifts further towards dumped position. If it does....cylinders faulty. If it doesnt....valve faulty.
3. Lower bucket back to ground to take pressure off couplers.
4. reconnect couplers

LD1...you are the winner ! Put it all back together today. With pressure on the 'dump' coupler it immediately went to the dump mode. Bled pressure off and disconnected the 'dump' QD. Started tractor and with no pressure on the 'dump' coupler the bucket did not move !!!

 

[747driver]

Following LD1 advice it seems I have a bad ( dump ) loader valve. As most of you have suffered sometimes another problem arises that happened at the same time your original problem arose !! I can't think of anything else that would cause this other than a bad loader valve. So I will look up the price of a new valve.

 

[747driver]

Got off the phone with the kioti dealer. He said to take out the 2 spool valves first and clean them good and that maybe there is a blown seal. The loader valve is $1300 ! I will start with the simple stuff first !!!

 

[Peter 315]

Got off the phone with the kioti dealer. He said to take out the 2 spool valves first and clean them good and that maybe there is a blown seal. The loader valve is $1300 ! I will start with the simple stuff first !!!

$1300 ouch your right simple stuff first

 

[aczlan]

Got off the phone with the kioti dealer. He said to take out the 2 spool valves first and clean them good and that maybe there is a blown seal. The loader valve is $1300 ! I will start with the simple stuff first !!!

Ouch.

Aaron Z