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   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #41  
Isnt that thing used on ice?? it has nothing to do with mowing and i'm pretty sure People plowed a "land" before that machine was invented.

Nothing to do with mowing?? The idea is to cover the whole rink. Isn’t that the same principle as mowing?
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #42  
Nothing to do with mowing?? The idea is to cover the whole rink. Isn’t that the same principle as mowing?

I guess it is but I am 51 yrs old and been in agriculture my whole life and never heard the term until this thread. Ive never seen a ice skating rink except on TV.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #43  
I guess it is but I am 51 yrs old and been in agriculture my whole life and never heard the term until this thread. Ive never seen a ice skating rink except on TV.

Have you ever seen that pattern used to work a field? If so, what do you call it? If not, sometimes we can learn things from others who are in totally different fields (pun not intended).
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #44  
Have you ever seen that pattern used to work a field? If so, what do you call it? If not, sometimes we can learn things from others who are in totally different fields (pun not intended).

Its called laying off a round , Its been done this way in agriculture for centuries. I figure the first dude to run the ice machine probably had plowed a day or too before and actually amazed the city folk with it.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #45  
Its called laying off a round , Its been done this way in agriculture for centuries. I figure the first dude to run the ice machine probably had plowed a day or too before and actually amazed the city folk with it.

I've never heard it called that. The Zamboni pattern doesn't work for moldboard plowing, but works for chisel plows, mowing, or disking.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #46  
Why are we getting off topic over something so stupid.

Just because you never heard it called that before doesn't make it any less accurate of a term. So rather than spouting off "what the **** it has to do with mowing"....perhaps take this as an opportunity to learn something new.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #47  
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #50  
I run a commercial mowing operation with my MX and 8' mower. To the tune of 300-400 acres per year, ranging from half acre lots to 30 acre fields, but averaging somewhere around 4-5 acres per job.

I have learned in 8 years of doing this, that there is no one mowing pattern that is most efficient for everything.

One job of a few acres that I do, that is roughly square, I mow around the perimeter 3 passes then start zamboni pattern. It is the FASTEST way to get the mower back into the cut. And the penalty for guessing wrong on how far to move down, isnt huge, cause at this point, after outlining the field, its maybe 300' to run across. And at 6 mph.... That takes a whoping 30-35 seconds. So if I guess wrong and my last zamboni pass is only cutting 4'.....eh....only took 30 seconds.

Another job I do is a 12 acre field. That is roughly 1200' on the long direction. So takes a few minutes to make a full length run. So rather than zamboni, I just mow down and back, similar to how one would mow their lawn with a zero turn to stripe it. Because the few extra seconds to reverse and line up for the second pass, is more than offset by the potential consequences of guessing wrong with zamboni.

Then there are just odd shaped fields that neither of those patterns will work on. On those I just continue circling the perimeter until smaller areas are naturally broken off from the larger chunk.

With a 15' mower and 5-series tractor though, it may be entirely possible to do a 180 degree turn within the width of the mower. I'd make a few passes to clear the perimeter, and mow down and back, even if it means making a wider turn at the end.

the penalty for guessing wrong on a zamboni gets worse with bigger mowers. make that final pass with a 15' mower only mowing 1' that was missed is alot worse than missing a foot with a 4' mower;)

180s like mentioned are hard on equipment but you値l just about for sure get the tires into the mower. I try to avoid hard turns plus its a lot of steering input

Brett
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #51  
You might want to look out for woodchuck holes while you are doing your mowing. They can really mess up your day. Had a JD MT get the front end and the front of the engine ripped off. The driver said he knew he was in trouble when he found himself looking down the vertical exhaust pipe. That was when the front came up. When it went down again the front end came off. Plays havoc with mower, baler and wagon wheels too. I've seen some burrows when Charles Rodent must have rented a backhoe.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #52  
I mow in a completely random pattern so everyone driving by thinks that I am crazy. That way the County’s finest stay off of my property. :pullinghair::pullinghair::jump::jump:
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #53  
You guys don't have GPS steering with programmed cut paths? :)
Having made that "smart remark", GPS is useful for minimizing sharp turns by "skipping" rows or swaths and no problem with the one foot width left for a 60 ft machine.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #54  
I mow in a completely random pattern so everyone driving by thinks that I am crazy. That way the County’s finest stay off of my property. :pullinghair::pullinghair::jump::jump:

I'm thinking passersby would be correct in their appraisal of the situation.:)


Steve
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #55  
I might try the zamboni pattern next time I mow our small field, but I have always just mowed in a continuous circle around and around the field until I get to the center. Granted once I get to the center circle (usually a triangle for me) I have to then make wider swings that require the mower to go over previous mowed areas to get back on the unmowed grass. That seems to keep the mower cutting the most grass as opposed to going over already cut grass. The zamboni pattern looks to me like it goes over previously mowed sections on both ends to get to the next mowing row meaning more riding than cutting. Might be a good way to disk or plow, but I'll wait until I try mowing next time before I decide if I like it.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #56  
just think...self driving tractors soon...we can sit by the fridge and look out the window.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #58  
This subject came up several years ago. As I recall, at least one TBN member used something akin to a Zamboni pattern.

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Another member said he started in the center of a field and mowed outwards.

I speculate that the most efficient mowing pattern depends on the field's geometry and that the most efficient mowing pattern can be determined by math, given the field's geometry.

Here my speculation ends -- I would advise trail and error.:)

Steve

This pattern is good for the last bit of mowing but otherwise leaves a lot of turning on already mown pasture. I always start on the outer edge and continue circling inward till I get to a small patch in the center. Then I split it in half and continue mowing in circles just like your diagram. I may end up with a last pass requiring tight turn on the end (if I don't get exactly half of the final patch) but that would be the last turn.
If using a sickle bar or flail mower to cut hay then the same applies, start on the outer edge and work your way to the center.
You have pretty much zero mowing over previously mown area except for mower overlap doing it this way.
 
   / let's discuss the best way to mow a field... #60  
I had customers with computerized water jet machines that would optimize a given piece of leather for the parts you wish to cut out in boot making. There must be similar programs for cutting a given field with particular equipment. I'm guessing, the results may be surprising.
 

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