2004 DK 50 Heater Blower

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KanakaRick

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Truckee, CA
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KIoti DK50S
So does anyone have any ideas how I can turn up the amount of heated air being blown from the heater? The low setting is pretty much the same as "off" and the high setting I can feel just a "breath" of hot air being produced. The fan seems to be working fine, but I don't seem to be getting any air flow. It's plenty hot, just no volume. Any suggestions or other ideas to get some hot air circulating in there?
 
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Maybe your cab air intake vent might be plugged just guessing.
 
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Does it have a cabin filter that may need cleaned/replaced ?
 
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Air intake is clear. On one side it sucks pretty good, on the other it is hard to tell. Everything seems to be working ok.
 
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The heater just draws the cold air from the "attic" of the tractor. There isn't a "cabin filter" that I can tell.
 
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Think I figured it out.... one side of the squirrel cage is bungered up. Who knows how? Wonder where I can get a squirrel cage?
 
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Well, I got sticker shock on pricing a new heater $350+ plus waiting for a couple of weeks. I am hesitating taking the heater apart to check the squirrel cage size (for fear I may not have heat by the next storm- Right now I have a little bit of heat, but not a lot). So I have a question for the DK 45-50 people: how well does the stock fan work to heat the cab? Mine never worked really well, and it barely heated the front windshield. I have no idea how long the squirrel cage has been collapsed.... I am thinking if the heater doesn't work that well in a stock configuration, maybe I ought to look for a (cheaper) aftermarket option which may supply more heat and cost half as much. Fortunately the heater location is pretty spacious, so I could get a bunch of different alternative heaters to work.

And I will still be looking for a cage replacement but honestly have no idea what to even search for. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Does anyone know if I can split the case of my heater while it is in the tractor and attached to the water hoses? I have storms lined up and I don't want to chance messing up my heater right now. It upsets me that I have to buy a $300+ heater because a $2 part is bent. I know I can use my air conditioner, but I'd prefer 90F heat, rather than 70f. It looks like Surplus Center may have a fan that will work, but I need to split the case so I can measure it to be sure. And as a follow up question, why would a fan squirrel cage become all bent up inside a heater box? It makes no sense to me.
 
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I have a 2010 era dk45 and the heater will blow me out of the cab. Very hot in there in winter. I have 4 cabin air filters on the underside of cab top on the outside. Both heater and air work great.
 
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Why would you need a new heater for a squirrel cage.
Most squirrel cage simple remove from the blower motor shaft with a pinch screw.
Just take the original to the local auto parts and see if they match it up.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/search?text=blower+motor+squirrel+cage&referer=search_form-allprod

Do I have to take the heater off the tractor to remove the squirrel cage? I've got most of the topside screws removed and am trying to figure out why it isn't coming apart. I'm one of those type of guys who usually destroys something trying to "repair" it. So I'd like some advice before I REALLY screw it up. It's too cold to chance making this fatal error.
 
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Do I have to take the heater off the tractor to remove the squirrel cage? I've got most of the topside screws removed and am trying to figure out why it isn't coming apart. I'm one of those type of guys who usually destroys something trying to "repair" it. So I'd like some advice before I REALLY screw it up. It's too cold to chance making this fatal error.

If you are not sure and afraid of doing any damage then I would suggest going to your Kioti dealer and talk to a mechanic about it or a local mechanic. I know I would not touch it cause I am like you, I do more damage than good when it comes to fixing things especially mechanical or electrical. My Kioti dealer is very good at coming to my home and fixing things at a reasonable rate.
 
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I would suggest going to your Kioti dealer and talk to a mechanic about it or a local mechanic. .
Can't do it. The dealer is 40 miles away and the next big storm is 48 hours away. I guess I will pull out my heat gun and warm everything up before I start prodding those plastic parts.
 
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The top opens and is hinged at the rear. I opened up mine to replace the zenon loghts with leds a few years ago. Wasnt too hard. But i would be carefull doing it if its freezing. Id be afraid of cracking frozen fiberglass shell of roof. IMG_3533.JPG IMG_3534.JPG IMG_3531.JPG IMG_3532.JPG
 
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The top opens and is hinged at the rear. I opened up mine to replace the zenon loghts with leds a few years ago. Wasnt too hard. But i would be carefull doing it if its freezing. Id be afraid of cracking frozen fiberglass shell of roof.View attachment 590719 View attachment 590720 View attachment 590717 View attachment 590718

Where can I get a manual like the one you have? My manual, Part # D6569-W01 assumes you know everything. The one you have looks much more comprehensive.
 
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i got it thru my dealer. i have the "Kioti tractor workshop manual..its huge IMG_3537.JPG. its been very helpful over the years
 
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Blower fans.jpg I wonder why I am not getting any air in the cab? I went to O'reilys and they have something close which will be here tomorrow, so tonight I am going to put these in boiling water to see if I can reshape them.
 
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Holy cow... what would cause that
 
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Holy cow... what would cause that
Who knows? I figured maybe it got too hot and somehow bent the cages. So (naturally) I assumed if I put the squirrel cage in boiling water (what are the chances that the "attic" got warmer than 212F?), but the boiling water didn't soften it up at all, so I have no clue- hopefully the cages I ordered from O'Riley's works; otherwise I will use the "good one" for the one blowing on the glass and the other one will be "blowing" on me.....
 

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