Marijuana on the job

[MossRoad]

Only a matter of time from when something starts in California... Same *** Marriage, Marijuana, Unleaded Gas, Emission Controls, Green Tax Credits, etc...

And earthquakes. Don't forget those. We don't want them here.

 

[lilranch2001]

Lefty Loosey

 

[Deere Dude]

You went to work impaired? .....and because of that Big Government should control what all of us do on our own time?

I don't follow this logic.

"...who needs people in a position of responsibility such as a surgeon, pilot, car mechanic, drivers etc. to be able to harm others because of poor judgement...."

The poor judgment would be from them deciding to use it on the job, just like alcohol or prescriptions. I don't see a difference.

Sure. Dopers have great judgment. Just like booze hounds.

 

[Looking4new]

My dearly departed father used to tell me, 'YOU are your own liquor control board'. I have always stuck to that saying. I do not drink and drive anymore. (I used to do it when I was a young pup). I do not smoke dope and drive either. I've got way too much to lose now. One impaired charge and there goes my job and all the perks that go with it. That in itself is enough to keep me drug and alcohol free behind the wheel.

 

[CobyRupert]

Sure. Dopers have great judgment. Just like booze hounds.

As far as on the job:
I don’t blame someone for having poor judgement when they’re inebriated.
It’s the poor judgement they had when SOBER to become inebriated that is the real concern.

It’s not the substance. Banning this one or that one doesn’t correct the poor judgement.

 

[ddbackhoe]

As far as on the job:
I don’t blame someone for having poor judgement when they’re inebriated.
It’s the poor judgement they had when SOBER to become inebriated that is the real concern.

It’s not the substance. Banning this one or that one doesn’t correct the poor judgement.

:thumbsup: “You can’t fix stupid” Ron White

 

[Deere Dude]

:thumbsup: “You can’t fix stupid” Ron White

I can fix stupid, but it's going to hurt.

 

[daugen]

Good news from FDA, someone is waking up finally.
When both genuine medicine and a potentially harmful recreational drug come from the same plant,
not sure how complicated this is going to become. It bothers me they don't say anything about safety here.

Some pot products may soon be getting regulated under the Food and Drug Adminstration. The FDA announced yesterday that it will start discussing regulatory framework for the use of CBD in consumer products, including foods and beverages, next month. CBD is the the abbreviation for cannabidiol, one of the non-psychoactive ingredients in cannabis that is believed to offer wide-ranging health benefits (the nastier, psychoactive ingredient is THC). FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb said the move was part of an effort to build "lawful pathways by which appropriate products containing cannabis or cannabis-derived compounds can be marketed" and made "more predictable and efficient." As it stands now under FDA guidelines, it's illegal to put CBD in a food product or market it as a diet supplement.

 

[MossRoad]

:thumbsup: 添ou can稚 fix stupid Ron White

I was drunk in the bar. They threw me in public!

 

[/pine]

Drug Tests Show Marijuana Use at 14-Year High Among Workers - WSJ

 

[lilranch2001]

Of course they are high, they are smoking weed!

 

[atsah]

Tell us something we don't know..

 

[/pine]

Tell us something we don't know..

If you're so keen on the subject how does the mj data compare to the positive opioid results?

 

[atsah]

All I said was your link tells the obvious, I don't waste my time looking at opioid data. it's a big problem, everyone knows this genius.

 

[daugen]

there was a companion article about problem in states legalizing MJ that then have potential employees that can't pass
entry test, when they could be stone sober on Monday morning, and every Monday morning. When does this get into the rights of individuals to enjoy their weekends? Sure need better tests here, and they have to be very inexpensive to administer or this will never work.

And I note in the article my friend the fork lift operator is now being considered for perhaps some extra slack. Really? Off the job maybe...
Legalized Marijuana Gives Hiring Managers a Headache - WSJ

 

[Citydude]

there was a companion article about problem in states legalizing MJ that then have potential employees that can't pass
entry test, when they could be stone sober on Monday morning, and every Monday morning. When does this get into the rights of individuals to enjoy their weekends? Sure need better tests here, and they have to be very inexpensive to administer or this will never work.

And I note in the article my friend the fork lift operator is now being considered for perhaps some extra slack. Really? Off the job maybe...
Legalized Marijuana Gives Hiring Managers a Headache - WSJ

So a person applies for a job, gets and interview for a job, gets called for a screening test and fails the test. Brilliant. One would think that the person would have the foresight to stop drugging while pursuing a job.

I'm biased as I was in the position to hire and frankly, I grew tired of failed tests and people not committed to finding work. If they were committed, they would stop drugging!

 

[tjkubota93]

So a person applies for a job, gets and interview for a job, gets called for a screening test and fails the test. Brilliant. One would think that the person would have the foresight to stop drugging while pursuing a job.

I'm biased as I was in the position to hire and frankly, I grew tired of failed tests and people not committed to finding work. If they were committed, they would stop drugging!

My brother smoked ALOT. He put in for a job he wanted so he quit for a while. They kinda him-hawed around and drug their feet, so he lost hope and started smoking again. Then they called and said your hired, go to xyz and take a drug test 3 days from now at 11am. So he quit smoking and drank water for 2 days. Then he went to xyz's location across town at 8am and paid out of pocket for a drug test. He passed, so he went and took the employment test later that day.

I was kinda impressed when he told me about that!

 

[mapper]

In Ohio mj products are tested by state certified lab for content

Same here in Washington.

 

[daugen]

So a person applies for a job, gets and interview for a job, gets called for a screening test and fails the test. Brilliant. One would think that the person would have the foresight to stop drugging while pursuing a job.

I'm biased as I was in the position to hire and frankly, I grew tired of failed tests and people not committed to finding work. If they were committed, they would stop drugging!

I agree with you completely, if they were using recreational MJ. My concern is the use of CBD products that can cause false positives on tests and have everything to do with medicine and nothing to do with safety or job performance. Would you ask a guy to stop using his asthma inhaler also? Any other drugs he has to take for health?

We "drug" when we take a cup of coffee or anyone lights up a cigarette. It's all self medicating with drugs of some kind.
My coffee pot just dinged, time to go...

Sober at work. I think we can all agree on that.

 

[Citydude]

I agree with you completely, if they were using recreational MJ. My concern is the use of CBD products that can cause false positives on tests and have everything to do with medicine and nothing to do with safety or job performance. Would you ask a guy to stop using his asthma inhaler also? Any other drugs he has to take for health?

We "drug" when we take a cup of coffee or anyone lights up a cigarette. It's all self medicating with drugs of some kind.
My coffee pot just dinged, time to go...

Sober at work. I think we can all agree on that.

Got to admit, I would need rehab if coffee became illegal . As far as drugs at the workplace, we had a zero tolerance for any non-prescription drugs.