Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors

   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #71  
He, in effect, said that he did not want my tractor on his property, probably because of his overconcern about insurance effects since he'd had a real estate business in Taxa_and_insur_atus_chusetts for many years looking after the 4 parents up there until they died.

Ralph

That is a real concern, when a person gets hurt the insurance companies are looking for the land owner for compensation so they are not held paying the medical bills.

Our country friends had a deck that collapsed and friends got hurt, no one sued but the insurance companies sure did. If you did not want them to sue then be ready to pay you own hospital bill. One bill was hundreds of thousands of dollars for an elderly lady who broke a leg with a long hospital stay and several surgeries. That's why you need a Umbrella policy.

The cute signs don't get it when someone gets injured and insurance companies come after you.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #72  
It doesn't have to be a negative or combative thread. Some people don't mind having people drop in on them, others enjoy quiet and privacy.

I like my quiet and privacy too, but I'm not going to obsess over it, nor am I going to threaten someone for merely walking up my driveway.
Jehova's Witnesses are not a big enough of a problem here to get worked up over. Maybe they come by once a year (if that), are always polite and leave if you tell them you're not interested. Door-to-door salesmen are so rare as to be non-existent. Don't think I've seen one in 10 years.

Quads and snowmobiles... Oh I dislike them. A lot.

2 years ago, we had a guy come in on his quad through the back gates of the property and tried to race out around the house, when he got spotted, he realized it might be better to stop and apologize. He then tried to sell us pot, telling us he was the local pothead on the mountain. What a moron he was.

Totally different situation, and one that definitely constitutes trespassing.

I don't have a problem with snowmobiles. I ride myself, and for that matter one of the state trails passes thru my property. They're quiet, don't cause any damage, and since the trail goes thru woods on my land there's very little problem with off-trail riders, only the occasional one who gets on my personal access track and realizes he's in somebody's back yard and turns around. Can't quite see how someone would mistake an 8' wide groomed trail with a single track, but I guess there are those who make the top half of the class possible, and I don't get worked up over it. Doesn't happen often enough to be bothered to post it.

ATVs are different. They're noisy, tear up the ground and seem to have a larger proportion of inconsiderate riders. Fortunately, not a big problem in my area, but further north there is a network of ATV trails, and there are enough inconsiderate riders to be a legitimate problem. I wouldn't even consider allowing them on my land.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #73  
During winter a few times we had people drive up and knock on the door, one was asking if we knew another neighbor and where they lived... I asked if they opened the gate to come up, and they said yes--he said he thought it was just a gate to keep cattle and horses in, and didn't think it was for people. Of course, he must have thought the no trespassing signs were for animals too. ;-)
Did he at least close the gate behind him on the way in, to keep the livestock in?
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #74  
That is a real concern, when a person gets hurt the insurance companies are looking for the land owner for compensation so they are not held paying the medical bills.

Our country friends had a deck that collapsed and friends got hurt, no one sued but the insurance companies sure did. If you did not want them to sue then be ready to pay you own hospital bill. One bill was hundreds of thousands of dollars for an elderly lady who broke a leg with a long hospital stay and several surgeries. That's why you need a Umbrella policy.

The cute signs don't get it when someone gets injured and insurance companies come after you.

That's why, unless an ambulance takes you to the hospital, you don't say how you got hurt. You give the information to the medical people that will allow them to best treat you. No doctor needs to know where you where or specifics. I also NEVER fill out the forms the insurance company sends asking for details about the accident. They generally send two forms and stop. I have insurance for them to pay out. IF I got hurt and really felt it was caused by negligence that might be a different story. If I slip on ice in the winter, it's no ones fault. Ice occurs in the winter. It's part of life in this part of the country.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #75  
I like my quiet and privacy too, but I'm not going to obsess over it, nor am I going to threaten someone for merely walking up my driveway.
Jehova's Witnesses are not a big enough of a problem here to get worked up over. Maybe they come by once a year (if that), are always polite and leave if you tell them you're not interested. Door-to-door salesmen are so rare as to be non-existent. Don't think I've seen one in 10 years.



Totally different situation, and one that definitely constitutes trespassing.

I don't have a problem with snowmobiles. I ride myself, and for that matter one of the state trails passes thru my property. They're quiet, don't cause any damage, and since the trail goes thru woods on my land there's very little problem with off-trail riders, only the occasional one who gets on my personal access track and realizes he's in somebody's back yard and turns around. Can't quite see how someone would mistake an 8' wide groomed trail with a single track, but I guess there are those who make the top half of the class possible, and I don't get worked up over it. Doesn't happen often enough to be bothered to post it.

ATVs are different. They're noisy, tear up the ground and seem to have a larger proportion of inconsiderate riders. Fortunately, not a big problem in my area, but further north there is a network of ATV trails, and there are enough inconsiderate riders to be a legitimate problem. I wouldn't even consider allowing them on my land.

Yes, both ATVs and snowmobiles can be a problem. It's more the person than the vehicles. My parents had snowmobilers go by their bedroom windows (~30-40') after midnight! They were ok with the snowmobiles using the field, but not going by their bedroom when they are sleeping!
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #76  
That's why, unless an ambulance takes you to the hospital, you don't say how you got hurt. You give the information to the medical people that will allow them to best treat you. No doctor needs to know where you where or specifics. I also NEVER fill out the forms the insurance company sends asking for details about the accident. They generally send two forms and stop.

That would be nice but our ins took back the money paid and waited us out. Terms of insurance.

I also had knee surgery and the hospital took a lean on my property until they got their money. And that was just a wore out knee but the type of surgery was “usually” caused by an accident. They thought I would keep the settlement money but there was none, and I had personal insurance at that time also. I guess I’m Texas they are more aggressive.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #77  
That would be nice but our ins took back the money paid and waited us out. Terms of insurance.

I also had knee surgery and the hospital took a lean on my property until they got their money. And that was just a wore out knee but the type of surgery was “usually” caused by an accident. They thought I would keep the settlement money but there was none, and I had personal insurance at that time also. I guess I’m Texas they are more aggressive.

Wow, sorry to hear that. I've never heard of such a case.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #78  
Quads and snowmobiles... Oh I dislike them. A lot.

2 years ago, we had a guy come in on his quad through the back gates of the property and tried to race out around the house, when he got spotted, he realized it might be better to stop and apologize. He then tried to sell us pot, telling us he was the local pothead on the mountain. What a moron he was.
We dont have the snowmobile problem, but have had problems with the 4 wheelers riding thru my hayfield. Was so glad when some moved away...
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #79  
We have problems with snowmobilers and atv'ers. It's the same guys, they just trade one form of racket for the other, depending on the time of year.

There should be a bounty on them. Shoot them, skin them out, and nail their hides to the barn door as a warning to others. They rip up and down our property line, right along "the trail" (that they illegally put in). But they also rip up and down our driveway, through our yard, chase our livestock, tresspass in the field behind our house, rip all the "no tresspassing" signs down, pulled down a section of fence blocking off one field, rip past our house on both the trail side and on our private property side late at night, with open exhaust 2 stroke "race" snowmobiles (aka LOUD).

The atv's rip up our grass, both in our yard and in the pasture south of the house (since they've torn down the fence, and torn down all the "no tresspassing" signs). They do donuts in our gravel driveway, and generally make as much nuisance of themselves as they possibly can.

They do the same things around each of our neighbor's places too.

Put a bounty on them.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #80  
We have problems with snowmobilers and atv'ers. It's the same guys, they just trade one form of racket for the other, depending on the time of year.

There should be a bounty on them. Shoot them, skin them out, and nail their hides to the barn door as a warning to others. They rip up and down our property line, right along "the trail" (that they illegally put in). But they also rip up and down our driveway, through our yard, chase our livestock, tresspass in the field behind our house, rip all the "no tresspassing" signs down, pulled down a section of fence blocking off one field, rip past our house on both the trail side and on our private property side late at night, with open exhaust 2 stroke "race" snowmobiles (aka LOUD).

The atv's rip up our grass, both in our yard and in the pasture south of the house (since they've torn down the fence, and torn down all the "no tresspassing" signs). They do donuts in our gravel driveway, and generally make as much nuisance of themselves as they possibly can.

They do the same things around each of our neighbor's places too.

Put a bounty on them.

Be a shame if that 2x4 full of spikes fell of the tailgate one night :confused3:
 

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