Big Barn’s Retirement Farm Shop
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Rustyiron
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It's crazy simple and maybe one of you guy's can come up with an improvement. This was my first "crack" at it and it worked well enough. I've always wanted to chuck it up in a slow lathe to spin it, I happen to have just bought my very first lathe but I need to organize (clean out some ****) a space for for it. (and my very first mill)
Now I usually put it in a vise and crank the pipe through it with a pipe wrench on it. The blade is made from a sawzall blade that I just filed a rounded hook or slot in it with a thin cut off wheel and used a chain saw file to touch it up. I made it about the wall thickness of black well pipe. That angle is about 30*
I used 2 large washers and punched out the inside (crudely with the iron worker) so it was at least as big as the 1 1/2"? pipe's inside, sandwiched together and iirc ground a recess in to hold the "blade" mechanically other than just squeezing it between the washers. That nut welded to the side of the pipe is to hold a smaller dia. pipe inside the the pipe so that it guides a smaller plastic pipe against the cutter. I don't need it for 1 1/4 pipe (tubing). Does that make any sense?:laughing:
It's crazy simple and maybe one of you guy's can come up with an improvement. This was my first "crack" at it and it worked well enough. I've always wanted to chuck it up in a slow lathe to spin it, I happen to have just bought my very first lathe but I need to organize (clean out some ****) a space for for it. (and my very first mill)
Now I usually put it in a vise and crank the pipe through it with a pipe wrench on it. The blade is made from a sawzall blade that I just filed a rounded hook or slot in it with a thin cut off wheel and used a chain saw file to touch it up. I made it about the wall thickness of black well pipe. That angle is about 30*
I used 2 large washers and punched out the inside (crudely with the iron worker) so it was at least as big as the 1 1/2"? pipe's inside, sandwiched together and iirc ground a recess in to hold the "blade" mechanically other than just squeezing it between the washers. That nut welded to the side of the pipe is to hold a smaller dia. pipe inside the the pipe so that it guides a smaller plastic pipe against the cutter. I don't need it for 1 1/4 pipe (tubing). Does that make any sense?:laughing:
Rustyiron
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Re: Big Barn痴 Retirement Farm Shop
Might as well show my "entrance" into machining. I've wanted to for years, and out of the blue a machinist friend that I had expressed interest in machine tools to called me and told me he had the perfect starter lathe. A very old Prentice, that he said they became Reed & Prentice in 1912! $400 and it all works. The castings are beautiful and for my foreseeable use, it may be all I need. Right now I'm just thinking simple stuff like turning down hitch pins to fit some whacky project or making a big pivot for a hinge or ??? For $400 how could I go wrong, but it is 3 phase.
Then in the same week while looking for phase converters, I come across a Cincinnati "Toolmaster" that looked well cared for and it came with a phase converter, $1600. I was finding various converters that did not look as complete as the on that came with the mill for $600-800 so the mill also seemed like another "how could I go wrong" as it was operational when I looked at it (with my machinist friend).
I really wanted to start with a mill as that was the suggestion of my friend that knew what kind of "stuff" I got into, but I'm not complaining. I'm hoping that I use these machines and they don't just end up in the way. In the past I've found that once I've acquired a tool that I may have talked myself into for a particular project, that it doesn't take long before your starting to wonder how you ever made it without one!:thumbsup:
Might as well show my "entrance" into machining. I've wanted to for years, and out of the blue a machinist friend that I had expressed interest in machine tools to called me and told me he had the perfect starter lathe. A very old Prentice, that he said they became Reed & Prentice in 1912! $400 and it all works. The castings are beautiful and for my foreseeable use, it may be all I need. Right now I'm just thinking simple stuff like turning down hitch pins to fit some whacky project or making a big pivot for a hinge or ??? For $400 how could I go wrong, but it is 3 phase.
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Awesome “entrance” Eric! Congrats. Glad it all came together for you. This is like a belated Xmas!
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Boy that didn't show up that scattered out in my "preview" of that post!:laughing:
Thanks Terry!
Thanks Terry!
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Re: Big Barn痴 Retirement Farm Shop
Aaron Z
Makes sense, I might have to try something similar, I have a few pieces of 3/4" thin wall poly pipe that are too short to be worth using (unless I need a short piece for a repair), but they would be perfect for protecting hydraulic hoses on the baler or mower conditioner.
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Rustyiron that lathe and mill can put the capital H in HogCut. Nice going.
Big Barn today's 500 mile round trip went well but was tasking on me and the son. Getting up at three AM takes special motivation these days after 4 hours of sleep. Someone told my son possession is 9/10th's of ownership so he offered to store the machine and tools in his storage unit until we get prepped shop space down the road.
The pictured mill that started my tool shop purchase was not the end of my story. We got it off loaded today just fine because the base and pedestal was not one piece but two that came apart. Besides the Select mill we got home with two mint like Craftsman lathes that were well tooled. One is a 6" and one is the 12" version which has the quick change gearbox added as well. Also two Craftsman drill presses were added to the deal. One is a table top version that I have not seen run but was free and the other one is a nice looking and running floor model. A nice looking Keller Jefferson 601 power hacksaw on its OEM looking stand option was part of the deal. There was also a new like grinder and belt sander on their own factory stands. Today he came up with a larger vise that I think came with the Select mill initially, 3 more blades for the 601 saw, two motors with one being 1/4 horse and the 1/3 is an older 110/220 volt motor and other stuff I have not really started to sort through.
While this was not all free it was like Christmas in April. There was no price haggling on my part last Sunday because he was a motivated seller and all of his stuff showed to be like new even at their ages. Since I looked at the mill six days ago he has started the process to list his house like NOW since he had sold us his gunsmithing machine shop set up while a buyer was in the house. My son is exhausted but like a kid at the end of Christmas day. The seller was too like a kid on Christmas day and thanked me for enabling him to get his basement cleared out on the first reply to his milling machine ad. It was important his collection over the last 7 years was appreciated by the buyers. If we need some big machining done down the road we plan to farm that out or we will buy machines for repeating needs.
I ramble to illustrate what can happen so be prepared to find out more info than in the CL ad. People are really concerned about their security I am learning. We talked an hour by phone and then two hours in person late last Sunday (6-8 pm). It was near the end of the 2 hour visit when he offered the full deal he was looking for all of the time and I left him all of the cash I had on me because I went not to look at the mill but to pay for the mill. The thinking needs to be done before you show up I am finding. I also have shown up and was gone in 3 minutes after long drives. In those cases I simply say something like thanks for showing me your item but it was not exactly what I was looking for but not in a personally demeaning way. It is assumed you have the selling price in cash on you and lives are lost during CL sales so the risk is still there where you show up with the cash or not.
My computer does not work very well when I am dog tired to do things like posting pictures but this time I did remember I had a camera with me plus has he expanded his item list of what he wanted to sell he sent me some photos as well. I was glad to only have to deal with one seller. The son and I estimated the truck and 5x9 full trailer load was well over a ton based on handling it and the truck sucking up so much gas.
Big Barn today's 500 mile round trip went well but was tasking on me and the son. Getting up at three AM takes special motivation these days after 4 hours of sleep. Someone told my son possession is 9/10th's of ownership so he offered to store the machine and tools in his storage unit until we get prepped shop space down the road.
The pictured mill that started my tool shop purchase was not the end of my story. We got it off loaded today just fine because the base and pedestal was not one piece but two that came apart. Besides the Select mill we got home with two mint like Craftsman lathes that were well tooled. One is a 6" and one is the 12" version which has the quick change gearbox added as well. Also two Craftsman drill presses were added to the deal. One is a table top version that I have not seen run but was free and the other one is a nice looking and running floor model. A nice looking Keller Jefferson 601 power hacksaw on its OEM looking stand option was part of the deal. There was also a new like grinder and belt sander on their own factory stands. Today he came up with a larger vise that I think came with the Select mill initially, 3 more blades for the 601 saw, two motors with one being 1/4 horse and the 1/3 is an older 110/220 volt motor and other stuff I have not really started to sort through.
While this was not all free it was like Christmas in April. There was no price haggling on my part last Sunday because he was a motivated seller and all of his stuff showed to be like new even at their ages. Since I looked at the mill six days ago he has started the process to list his house like NOW since he had sold us his gunsmithing machine shop set up while a buyer was in the house. My son is exhausted but like a kid at the end of Christmas day. The seller was too like a kid on Christmas day and thanked me for enabling him to get his basement cleared out on the first reply to his milling machine ad. It was important his collection over the last 7 years was appreciated by the buyers. If we need some big machining done down the road we plan to farm that out or we will buy machines for repeating needs.
I ramble to illustrate what can happen so be prepared to find out more info than in the CL ad. People are really concerned about their security I am learning. We talked an hour by phone and then two hours in person late last Sunday (6-8 pm). It was near the end of the 2 hour visit when he offered the full deal he was looking for all of the time and I left him all of the cash I had on me because I went not to look at the mill but to pay for the mill. The thinking needs to be done before you show up I am finding. I also have shown up and was gone in 3 minutes after long drives. In those cases I simply say something like thanks for showing me your item but it was not exactly what I was looking for but not in a personally demeaning way. It is assumed you have the selling price in cash on you and lives are lost during CL sales so the risk is still there where you show up with the cash or not.
My computer does not work very well when I am dog tired to do things like posting pictures but this time I did remember I had a camera with me plus has he expanded his item list of what he wanted to sell he sent me some photos as well. I was glad to only have to deal with one seller. The son and I estimated the truck and 5x9 full trailer load was well over a ton based on handling it and the truck sucking up so much gas.
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Gale it sounds like a good sale for BOTH parties involved. That’s my definition of a good deal. Win Win
We’ll be looking forward to when you are able to set the machines up.
We’ll be looking forward to when you are able to set the machines up.
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Looking forward to more of this thread!
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