Need a Ford 2120 Block/Engine

[AndyMA]

My 2120 has a hole in the block. Looking for a block or engine

Thanks

Andy

 

[RickB]

My 2120 has a hole in the block. Looking for a block or engine

Thanks

Andy

I don’t have a ready source, but there are two completely different engines used based on build date. The original non-emissionized version and the Tier I late model engine.

 

[fried1765]

My 2120 has a hole in the block. Looking for a block or engine

Thanks

Andy

How did THAT happen?

 

[AndyMA]

Don’t know. Tractor was outside at farm all winter. Antifreeze in oil this spring

Andy

 

[radios1]

Don’t know. Tractor was outside at farm all winter. Antifreeze in oil this spring

Andy

it's not good at all to store a tractor outside:shocked: and you must have had an improper mix of antifreeze and water, so it froze and cracked the block!.

 

[Btown]

Usually when they freeze it just pushes out the freeze plugs. I would think head/gasket issues. Does it have a hole that you can see?

 

[radios1]

read this.. https://www.tractorforum.com/threads/ford-2110-engine-compatability.34677/ there may be a compatible engine from a good manufacturer that may fit, but I say forget the Shibura engine, it's not worth it..

 

[fried1765]

read this.. https://www.tractorforum.com/threads/ford-2110-engine-compatability.34677/ there may be a compatible engine from a good manufacturer that may fit, but I say forget the Shibura engine, it's not worth it..

"forget the Shibaura engine, it's not worth it" ????
Now.....there is some crappy advice !

 

[RickB]

"forget the Shibaura engine,it's not worth it" ????
Now.....there is some crappy advice !

If you read enough of his posts it all adds up.

 

[radios1]

"forget the Shibaura engine, it's not worth it" ????
Now.....there is some crappy advice !

really? read the link!. and also, try to find an engine!. these tractors are being parted out, rather than sold as complete working tractors, because of the excessive price of parts, that is, IF you can buy them!.. a quote " Ford built 3 completely different 2110 tractors in 3 different eras. The first generation was a 4 cyl tractor built 1963-64. Second was a 3 cylinder low center of gravity (LCG) tractor built from 1965-74. The third generation 2110 was a 4 cylinder Shibaura (Japan) tractor built from 1983-86. The reason I mention this is that the parts are completely different, and the parts prices very different. Parts for Shibaura built tractors are quite expensive. You have to be careful when looking for parts, because obviously you may not be getting correct parts.

It is my understanding Japanese tractor manufacturers have stopped supporting 1980's vintage tractors. Parts are scarce and very expensive. For example, a new crankshaft (from NH dealership) for your tractor is just over $3K.

Tractorhouse.com has 25 ea. 2110's listed in salvage in their 'dismantled machine' section. Many of them are Shibaura built. I suspect that most of these tractors were salvaged because owners decided it was not worth repairing whatever was wrong with them. You may be able to find a decent running engine in salvage? I don't know."

 

[RickB]

The subject tractor is a 2120, not a 2110. Different machine, different engines used.

 

[fried1765]

really? read the link!. and also, try to find an engine!. these tractors are being parted out, rather than sold as complete working tractors, because of the excessive price of parts, that is, IF you can buy them!.. a quote " Ford built 3 completely different 2110 tractors in 3 different eras. The first generation was a 4 cyl tractor built 1963-64. Second was a 3 cylinder low center of gravity (LCG) tractor built from 1965-74. The third generation 2110 was a 4 cylinder Shibaura (Japan) tractor built from 1983-86. The reason I mention this is that the parts are completely different, and the parts prices very different. Parts for Shibaura built tractors are quite expensive. You have to be careful when looking for parts, because obviously you may not be getting correct parts.

It is my understanding Japanese tractor manufacturers have stopped supporting 1980's vintage tractors. Parts are scarce and very expensive. For example, a new crankshaft (from NH dealership) for your tractor is just over $3K.

Tractorhouse.com has 25 ea. 2110's listed in salvage in their 'dismantled machine' section. Many of them are Shibaura built. I suspect that most of these tractors were salvaged because owners decided it was not worth repairing whatever was wrong with them. You may be able to find a decent running engine in salvage? I don't know."

Is all the above your personal experience?
I do not see a Ford 2120 listed in your profile.
Only a John Deere 22HP gas lawnmower is shown.

 

[radios1]

The subject tractor is a 2120, not a 2110. Different machine, different engines used.

not really, look here. TractorData.com Ford 212 tractor engine information they have the same bore and stroke, the difference being the 2110 has a higher compression, yet lower HP. probably due to the fuel injection system..

 

[RickB]

not really, look here. TractorData.com Ford 212 tractor engine information they have the same bore and stroke, the difference being the 2110 has a higher compression, yet lower HP. probably due to the fuel injection system..

Yes, really. The engine architecture is completely different between the 2110 engine and either of the 2120 engines. One is a wet sleeve engine and the other two are parent bore blocks.
You might want to inform yourself better.
I have been a New Holland dealership employee for most of the last 22 years and don’t need to go to a half assed tractor spec website with sketchy info to back what I say. Go look at the NH parts lookup and compare parts and part numbers. I’m not making this up, it is factual.

 

[fried1765]

Yes, really. The engine architecture is completely different between the 2110 engine and either of the 2120 engines. One is a wet sleeve engine and the other two are parent bore blocks.
You might want to inform yourself better.
I have been a New Holland dealership employee for most of the last 22 years and don’t need to go to a half assed tractor spec website with sketchy info to back what I say. Go look at the NH parts lookup and compare parts and part numbers. I’m not making this up, it is factual.

As we both know ......radios1 just can't help himself!

 

[radios1]

so, does anyone have a link to a fair priced engine/block for a ford 2120, or even a support site like there is for the Ford 8N?. I bet not, if there is, please post it!.. if you can't get parts for something, or if they are way overpriced to the point that the whole tractor is being parted out en mass, because the parts are too expensive, is it worth keeping as a working tractor??.. a long time searching Google shows the support for the engine has been gone long ago, and you'd have to look at one of the many parts tractors for the engine/block.. at $3000 for just a crankshaft, it's understandable why these tractors are being parted out, rather than sold as complete tractors..