Mahindra no DPF and no Regen?

[Tx Jim]

Jeff9366. Yo

Tractors today are so well made, that major maintenance issues can often be done by the owner. I grew up in dairy country of New York and Pennsylvania, and as a kid, i watched my uncles "split their tractors" in the field almost every other year with the dealership mechanic onsite as the advisor. Just like clockwork, about every 500 hrs, you split your tractor for major maintenance and repairs. Those older tractors did not have Tier4 emmissions, but they also were not as reliable as tractors today.

May I ask what brand of tractors your uncles owned? I disagree that new tractors are more reliable than older tractors I'm accustomed to. My neighbor's '15 year model had a fungus in fuel problem that cost him $8000 for a new fuel system that I've seen same problem on older tractors corrected simply by draining fuel tank & adding biocide to fuel. And what about all the threads I read about newer tractors that stopped moving from faulty relay or wiring that dealer tech had to correct problem

 

[Motorboatin]

May I ask what brand of tractors your uncles owned? I disagree that new tractors are more reliable than older tractors I'm accustomed to. My neighbor's '15 year model had a fungus in fuel problem that cost him $8000 for a new fuel system that I've seen same problem on older tractors corrected simply by draining fuel tank & adding biocide to fuel. And what about all the threads I read about newer tractors that stopped moving from faulty relay or wiring that dealer tech had to correct problem

Not using the tractor and letting untreated diesel sit is not a reliability issue. It's a negligence issue

On the other hand, electrical problems are issues related to the design of the tractor. Old tractors had the same problems and they weren't always easy to diagnose but I agree they were easier to fix once found. Today you can plug in a laptop and find the problem in a couple of minutes but fixing the problem may need to be done by a professional

Modern machinery is more reliable but it's not always user friendly

 

[Tx Jim]

Not using the tractor and letting untreated diesel sit is not a reliability issue. It's a negligence issue

On the other hand, electrical problems are issues related to the design of the tractor. Old tractors had the same problems and they weren't always easy to diagnose but I agree they were easier to fix once found. Today you can plug in a laptop and find the problem in a couple of minutes but fixing the problem may need to be done by a professional

Modern machinery is more reliable but it's not always user friendly

If Modern tractors are so reliable why are there a vast number of threads posted on the internet about newer model tractors that stop operating or not operating correctly????

 

[grsthegreat]

interesting read

http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/engine/1107dp-dpf-the-time-bomb-under-your-diesel/\


i knew there was a reason i chose gas over diesel for the truck i purchased 2 years ago. the 2 diesel trucks i own now are pre 2007

 

[rademamj1]

A fungus problem with diesel fuel, mainly comes from letting the diesel sit in the tractor for months and months, with a leaking cap during rain, allowing moisture to enter the diesel tank. The real damage then comes from negligent uncaring owners, who run that fungus infected diesel directly into their fuel injectors. Biocide additives when used can help with bacteria and fungus, to limit diesel contamination.

 

[Tx Jim]

The fact my neighbor failed to notice he had fungus or algae isn't what I was referring to I just utilized that to point how high $$$$ common rail fuel systems are to repair.

My point is that common rail fuel systems won't tolerate foreign objects in fuel as well as older type fuel inj pumps & injectors. I'll bet not many current tractor owners routinely monitor the fuel tank for presence of water in the tank. Water can get in fuel from several reasons besides rain water. My understanding is water is required in tank for fungus/algae to grow/live. I think you discover growth doesn't require months & months.

 

[ptsg]

As we discuss that newer tractors are more/less reliable than the old ones and also that the emission systems are here to destroy engines, Rich from Deboss Garage just released a video from yet another engine rebuild due to a bad EGR cooler.

It's a MF 4610, EGR cooler started leaking, filled one of the cylinders with coolant. The owner tried to start the tractor, which was hydro locked and bent a connecting rod on a pretty much brand new tractor.

Just another case adding to plenty more all over the world. I have no doubt, that if that tractor didn't have any of those emissions, it would 10k hours easily without any problems on the engine.

 

[Motorboatin]

If Modern tractors are so reliable why are there a vast number of threads posted on the internet about newer model tractors that stop operating or not operating correctly????

Because we have the internet full of forums that give us a place to complain and it never goes away

People complained just as much 50 years ago but it didn't stick around like it does today. A group of guys complaining about their crappy tractors was forgotten when the next round of beers came

 

[Tx Jim]

I agree internet & social media has made tractor/equipment failures more readily accessible BUT I still think newer tractors have a more problems than when the older models were brand new. I wish these tractor/equipment forums were in existence when I was employed by a JD dealer for 21 yrs with 13 of those yrs serving as a dealer service manager. After leaving JD I've been custom baling hay for 33 yrs repairing my own tractors/equipment utilizing the same tractor since 1993 to pull my rd baler having rd baled over 150,000 bales. I wonder how many of these new tractors will be operating 27 yrs from today.

Due to my past experience I think I have a "tad bit more knowledge" with operating/repairing farm tractors & equipment than the "average member of these type discussion forums".

 

[Peter 315]

I agree internet & social media has made tractor/equipment failures more readily accessible BUT I still think newer tractors have a more problems than when the older models were brand new. I wish these tractor/equipment forums were in existence when I was employed by a JD dealer for 21 yrs with 13 of those yrs serving as a dealer service manager. After leaving JD I've been custom baling hay for 33 yrs repairing my own tractors/equipment utilizing the same tractor since 1993 to pull my rd baler having rd baled over 150,000 bales. I wonder how many of these new tractors will be operating 27 yrs from today.

Due to my past experience I think I have a "tad bit more knowledge" with operating/repairing farm tractors & equipment than the "average member of these type discussion forums".

Yes Sir .................:thumbsup: