log splitter off FEL pump

[DLinMI]

I have a MF 165 with a FEL which runs off a pump on the front of the tractor. I've been running a 3pt log splitter off the auxiliary hydraulics, but the gpm is bare minimum for the splitter, painfully slow. I'd like to tap into the hydraulics for the loader. What is the most affordable option? I've heard of using a diverter valve and or power beyond off my loader spool, but need some guidance. I'm going to try to attach a picture of the spool, I think the plugged spot may be a power beyond port? Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks

 

[DLinMI]

Sorry I don't know how to attach pic

 

[DLinMI]

Here it is

 

[KennyG]

Usually the hydraulic ports will all have the same flow, so your loader won't provide any better performance. According to TractorData.com, your tractor only has 4.5 gpm. If your log splitter has a 4 inch or larger cylinder, that's probably not enough for acceptable speed.

 

[RickB]

Usually the hydraulic ports will all have the same flow, so your loader won't provide any better performance. According to TractorData.com, your tractor only has 4.5 gpm. If your log splitter has a 4 inch or larger cylinder, that's probably not enough for acceptable speed.

He said the loader has a pump mounted at the front of the engine. I bet it has double the GPM that his hitch pump provides.

Cheapest option would be a set of quick couplers in your bucket circuit so you could use that circuit to power your splitter valve. Use a bungee to keep the bucket spool valve on the loader control stroked.
A diverted valve would be neater, you would have to know where the system relief valve is. If it is in the loader valve a diverter installation would need to include relief protection for the splitter circuit.

 

[wdchyd]

Yes, the plugged spot is for changing that Gresen SP valve from open center, closed center or power beyond. The correct plug you will need will be longer with a seal at the bottom and a hole straight thru and threaded for a port connection to go to the next valve inline.

 

[wdchyd]

https://tejas.hyd.com/uploads/5/2/5/7/52570035/gresen_monoblock_sales_pc-1000.pdf

Look at page 9.....#6 diagram

 

[WranglerX]

Yes, the plugged spot is for changing that Gresen SP valve from open center, closed center or power beyond. The correct plug you will need will be longer with a seal at the bottom and a hole straight thru and threaded for a port connection to go to the next valve inline. View attachment 672022

Sort of same thoughts about adding power beyond for splitter.... But not enough experience to make definitive statement....

Dale

 

[LouNY]

The cheapest and simplest would be to add a quick connect to the loader curl portion of the valve,
run a longer hose from the splitter to the quick connect, take the return from the splitter valve and just attach to a tank connection.
Does your loader have it's own reservoir in the loader framework, make sure your return goes to the tank your front pump draws from.

 

[ovrszd]

It would be nice to know the flow rate of the FEL pump before spending time/money to use it.

For us, it would also be nice to know the specs of the splitter.

 

[DLinMI]

I'm not sure of the flow rate of the pump. I can't find the info that matches exactly. It's an Eaton 26000-500C, I'll attach pic, and the splitter requires 6-25 gpm at 1500-2500 psi, thanks for all replies

 

[ovrszd]

What's the cylinder size of your splitter? That information will tell us what you need for flow.

 

[m7040]

on my MF203 the front pump for the FEL puts out close to 16 gpm. The loader control valve has the port for the power outlet to hook up the backhoe. You need to get the fitting from the dealer and then use that for the splitter. Also you need to connect a return line back to the fluid tank and you are in business

 

[oldnslo]

I'm not sure of the flow rate of the pump. I can't find the info that matches exactly. It's an Eaton 26000-500C, I'll attach pic, and the splitter requires 6-25 gpm at 1500-2500 psi, thanks for all replies View attachment 672086

I suspect that pump number is a casting number. Are there any numbers stamped on the housing anywhere? Eaton 26000 series covers a broad range of displacements.

 

[ovrszd]

on my MF203 the front pump for the FEL puts out close to 16 gpm. The loader control valve has the port for the power outlet to hook up the backhoe. You need to get the fitting from the dealer and then use that for the splitter. Also you need to connect a return line back to the fluid tank and you are in business

Good stuff!!! Great post!!!!

 

[DLinMI]

The cheapest and simplest would be to add a quick connect to the loader curl portion of the valve,
run a longer hose from the splitter to the quick connect, take the return from the splitter valve and just attach to a tank connection.
Does your loader have it's own reservoir in the loader framework, make sure your return goes to the tank your front pump draws from.

Yes it does.

 

[DLinMI]

I suspect that pump number is a casting number. Are there any numbers stamped on the housing anywhere? Eaton 26000 series covers a broad range of displacements.

Tractor isn't home now, probably won't be able to check until this weekend

 

[DLinMI]

on my MF203 the front pump for the FEL puts out close to 16 gpm. The loader control valve has the port for the power outlet to hook up the backhoe. You need to get the fitting from the dealer and then use that for the splitter. Also you need to connect a return line back to the fluid tank and you are in business

Is this where that might hook up? If not does anyone know what this would be for? Thanks everyone for your time.

 

[DLinMI]

The cheapest and simplest would be to add a quick connect to the loader curl portion of the valve,
run a longer hose from the splitter to the quick connect, take the return from the splitter valve and just attach to a tank connection.
Does your loader have it's own reservoir in the loader framework, make sure your return goes to the tank your front pump draws from.

This is the curl side, I wonder if I could tap in here?

 

[LouNY]

This is the curl side, I wonder if I could tap in here?View attachment 672135

If I was to guess that may be a pressure relief setting.

I would remove the curl line add a quick connect female to the valve body and a male to the existing curl line and the splitter pressure line,
the curl function would not work while the splitter was being used.