Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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I think what they should do is start smaller and more basic. Make a car with a lower, say under 20k price tag, that can do 50 miles and provide support services for them, like a “common mans car”, then make all the 0-60 in 2.5 second luxury, AWD, long range models next.
Then they can at least have the appearance that all this isn’t so only rich people can have EVs and everyone else has to ride next to a pervert in a dirty subway with Covid germs.
Yeah, there is a reason they do it the other way around. Like ANY business, they are in it to make money and doing what u said first would not make them enough money to grow the company.

Elon is a super smart guy and wants to sell at those low price point levels. But there is such small profit margin per unit, that to start with them would be financial disaster. Once manufacturing capacity grows, those units can be made en-masse and be worth it because of efficient volume production.

Long time new tech production model......
 
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What happens if you are on a trip in your EV and while stuck in a typical NYC or WDC traffic jam, your EV battery goes dead? 1000 cars, bumper to bumper behind you and in front of you?
Who/how will they get to you to recharge you?
Cynical, but it’s more of a problem than one thinks.
You can’t just “add a few gallons” to an EV. It takes time to access the vehicle and recharge while blocking traffic.
Others are bound to go dead in the ensuing wait while the original dead vehicle is waiting for/to an emergency charge.
EV's are/will be hook/tow.

The problem will be getting to them in dense traffic. I've seen Goldwings (evil ICE machine, to the rescue) set up with batwing tow-dollies for towing vehicles in Europe. Not gonna pull an F550 with a 'Wing, but suitable for extracting small vehicles out of gridlock.

Power. NOW. I'm going to miss hydrocarbons, once The Motor Law is for real....

Rgds, D.
 
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Tesla charges $$ most for use of a Supercharger. It is only some early adopters that still get it for free. Most of the Teslas on they road have to pay.
Understood.

My oblique reference to the article related to the writer listing "assuming there was a Supercharger nearby their destination" or something similar as a Listed Mistake.

It would be ironic if that person had an ancestor who crossed the continent in a covered wagon........ Some Things Ain't What They Used to Be.....

Rgds, D.
 
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EV's are/will be hook/tow.

The problem will be getting to them in dense traffic. I've seen Goldwings (evil ICE machine, to the rescue) set up with batwing tow-dollies for towing vehicles in Europe. Not gonna pull an F550 with a 'Wing, but suitable for extracting small vehicles out of gridlock.

Power. NOW. I'm going to miss hydrocarbons, once The Motor Law is for real....

Rgds, D
Heck I wont! The new Tesla S Plaid is doing 0-130mph in 4.7 seconds!
 
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Heck I wont! The new Tesla S Plaid is doing 0-130mph in 4.7 seconds!
My Up Too Early Stream of Consciousness typing is wandering too much tonight....

What I was referring to was quickly dumping 2 gallons of gasoline into an empty tank, and having (basic utility level) power BACK NOW. That ^ matters to me; halo-effect marketing from the Musk marketing machine (MMM ?) does not.

If I want to go fast, I'll buy a Japanese superbike, at a fraction of what only a mid-range Tesla goes for.

Rgds, D.
 
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Yeah, there is a reason they do it the other way around. Like ANY business, they are in it to make money and doing what u said first would not make them enough money to grow the company.

Elon is a super smart guy and wants to sell at those low price point levels. But there is such small profit margin per unit, that to start with them would be financial disaster. Once manufacturing capacity grows, those units can be made en-masse and be worth it because of efficient volume production.

Long time new tech production model......
Meh, with all the government intervention, carbon credits, tax incentive, etc it could be done and they could make money, too.
We’d like to think it’s a pure capitalist economy, but it’s not.
Henry Ford and Volkswagen made their fortunes building cars for “the people”, not the wealthy…
I ain’t buyin what you’re sellin
 
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