Just a little dangerous.... imo

   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #42  
They are manufacturing it; seeking to license and sell it. Zero Turn Mower Attachments | ZTMA
I wonder if they only make the one for the little Ryobi electric ZT?

Criticize all you want, innovation seldom works perfectly the first time yet is the process by which everything good we have today has come into existence. And you can pick anything apart. My great grandfather brought the first steam powered traction drive engine (shortened later to "tractor") to Oklahoma when they first were available... he took a team of draft horses (he was a Percheron breeder and had some world grand champions) from NW OK to Kansas City, MO to get the tractor the 375 miles to his farm because he could pull it back with the team in 1/3 the time the tractor could drive the trip. I can only imagine all the guffaws he received from farmers along the way who couldn't imagine the tractor would EVER replace the horse for farming.

ALL of you tractor owners should be glad folks like my great grandfather and a few others like him had the vision to buy those SLOW, HUGE, under-powered tractors back then or you wouldn't be working and playing with your nice new tractors today.

Innovators are the visionaries we all owe our lifestyle to.
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   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #43  
They are manufacturing it; seeking to license and sell it. Zero Turn Mower Attachments | ZTMA
I wonder if they only make the one for the little Ryobi electric ZT?

Criticize all you want, innovation seldom works perfectly the first time yet is the process by which everything good we have today has come into existence. And you can pick anything apart. My great grandfather brought the first steam powered traction drive engine (shortened later to "tractor") to Oklahoma when they first were available... he took a team of draft horses (he was a Percheron breeder and had some world grand champions) from NW OK to Kansas City, MO to get the tractor the 375 miles to his farm because he could pull it back with the team in 1/3 the time the tractor could drive the trip. I can only imagine all the guffaws he received from farmers along the way who couldn't imagine the tractor would EVER replace the horse for farming.

ALL of you tractor owners should be glad folks like my great grandfather and a few others like him had the vision to buy those SLOW, HUGE, under-powered tractors back then or you wouldn't be working and playing with your nice new tractors today.

Innovators are the visionaries we all owe our lifestyle to.
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Your comparison is hardly accurate. We already have loaders. What is innovative about making a worse loader? BTW the one you linked is way better than the one in the first post because they’ve moved it back 2 feet.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #44  
someone else mentioned snow. for situation where your forward power/traction will be stopped by your load, and your front end is light, it can be much better to have implement way out in front to minimize front end lifting off ground. (I learnt that by 20 yrs built a 1 hour quickie emergency snow pusher by sliding pipe over the lift arms of a mid 80s mid-size cub cadet then welding a *cough* "blade" onto them, much better with it 4 feet out than right in front).
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #45  
Your comparison is hardly accurate. We already have loaders. What is innovative about making a worse loader? BTW the one you linked is way better than the one in the first post because they’ve moved it back 2 feet.
Everyone already has a loader? I bet there a lot of ZT owners who don't have a loader and this might be the opportunity for some of them to do some projects they couldn't otherwise do. Or do them easier and quicker.

And thank you for making my point: "innovation seldom works perfectly the first time yet is the process by which everything good we have today has come into existence." They've improved their product... wow, can you imagine that?!?
:D

My comparison was exactly accurate from the perspective of those 120 years ago who already had horsepower and couldn't see why they should become mechanics when all they wanted to do was farm. Everyone HAD horses, why should anyone make or buy a slower, more expensive machine to do what they could already do?
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #46  
Why should a failure (to impress everybody) be commended? If the goal was to ruin a lawnmower and build a useless loader he succeeded. Otherwise it’s a fail. It’s a pretty safe bet he actually planned on doing work with this vs moving feathers and possibly mulch. Just look how many newbies come here expecting to do the work of a D8 with their subcompact tractor.

I gotta wonder if all of us use a FEL for the same tasks, like a guy with anL6060 vs a guy with a BX. (Backhoes are another tool that capacity/expectation may vary with size :oops:)

My ZTR weighs 770 lbs but I can only lift the front wheels by hand. Just in case, I try not to lean forward and have it topple onto me as it pitches forward due to the weight bias. :rolleyes:

Anyway, the canopy suggests to me that grand-kids have been asking to mow the lawn, and not just 6 year olds that do/did farm chores on a old Massey or Deere ... like most of us here. :sneaky: "Yes Chad, you can mow the lawn after you muck out stalls." Can you say 'motivational tool'?
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #47  
A very capable machine. Geometry is right on. Operator needs more practice.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #48  
Everyone already has a loader? I bet there a lot of ZT owners who don't have a loader and this might be the opportunity for some of them to do some projects they couldn't otherwise do. Or do them easier and quicker.

A loader is going to make the ZT worthless at its intended use. And a loader even a good one on a ZT will never do meaningful work. Ask any small tractor owner how well they work in 2wd.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #49  
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Looks like it sits in the Henry Ford Museum..?
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #50  
Honestly it's a great idea, needs in my opinion wider and larger front wheels, the ones on the front of this machine will do more damage with a loaded bucket on lawn or freshly laid turf if you want top dress after laying other than that the concept is proven, it works.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #51  
Just a note to 4get gto, Common sense dose not exist, there is no such thing, education comes by experience good and bad, as an apprentice trainer some learn faster than others and some you just can't teach usually because they have been corrupted or been put down by that very phrase, common sense can't be used as a defense in a court of law, people that use that phrase are often one eyed and ignorant of the value of education or are incapable of teaching and assume knowledge in others, it's a dangerous path to go down, that's how serious incidents happen, these are not accidents, not by a long shot.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #52  
Then there are guys who build their own stuff and don't feel they have to impress anybody. IMO if that bucket can't haul everybody else's framin' load maybe it's enough for the builder's.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #55  
What I learned out of this whole thread is that the Ryobi Battery powered Zero Turn equipped with an actual hydraulic powered front end loader is actually useful. At least for some light duty small jobs. Of course with it having a real hydraulic pump and hydraulic cylinders instead of the electric actuators it will have much faster cycle times and lift capacity. Also someone who designed it had some inkling of how counterbalance forces work. :)
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #56  
Just a note to 4get gto, Common sense dose not exist, there is no such thing, education comes by experience good and bad, as an apprentice trainer some learn faster than others and some you just can't teach usually because they have been corrupted or been put down by that very phrase, common sense can't be used as a defense in a court of law, people that use that phrase are often one eyed and ignorant of the value of education or are incapable of teaching and assume knowledge in others, it's a dangerous path to go down, that's how serious incidents happen, these are not accidents, not by a long shot.
Got ya..👍
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   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #58  
Like asking what goes best with halibut gravy. Some will say barbecued coleslaw, some will say pork tartare, and I was just looking for a dip for pelican jerky that doesn't need warmed up to serve.

It's great to hear opinions from all over the cranial spectrum. Plenty of that here and no FEL required. btw, I'd like to see the guy add a cab first & the back-hoe later.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #59  
Why is everyone a critic? This person actually got off their rear end and built something. Let them learn the shortcomings themselves. I think anyone who builds their own… should be commended!

I agree, but my first thought was to caption it:

When you hate your wife and will do absolutely any project to stay out in the shop.
 
   / Just a little dangerous.... imo #60  
Gotta give the man credit for his ingenuity, that took some doing. It's more of a conversation piece than anything.
 

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