B3350 REGEN PROBLEMS & FIX

[SDT]

Is this under warranty?

It would have been but not after it has been bypassed.

SDT

 

[5030]

Actually, reformers are still available and Kubota has extended the warranty of the reformer and any other emissions parts damaged by a failed reformer for the lifetime of the tractor, regardless of ownership trail.

SDT

I wasn't aware of that. I thought they played the end game with them. Does the refit require a dealer to do it or can you do it at home? Really not germane to me as they are way too small for my intended uses anyway.

Least Kubota did the somewhat right thing. Kind of wished they had done the same with the weak pto brakes on the M9's instead of issuing an RO but not notifying owners of the refit. As it is, mine are way out of warranty and I just run an overunning coupler on freewheeling implements if there isn't one built in.

Not gonna pay shop time for a split to access the wet pack to have the pack upgraded. Would be especially expensive on mine as they are cab models.

 

[SDT]

I wasn't aware of that. I thought they played the end game with them. Does the refit require a dealer to do it or can you do it at home? Really not germane to me as they are way too small for my intended uses anyway.

Least Kubota did the somewhat right thing. Kind of wished they had done the same with the weak pto brakes on the M9's instead of issuing an RO but not notifying owners of the refit. As it is, mine are way out of warranty and I just run an overunning coupler on freewheeling implements if there isn't one built in.

Not gonna pay shop time for a split to access the wet pack to have the pack upgraded. Would be especially expensive on mine as they are cab models.

The PTO brake upgrade was change made during the M9960 model run. Of course, my M9960 SN is a bit before the change was made.

I have seen catastrophic PTO brake failures from M series tractors. Not a pretty sight.

SDT

 

[5030]

Dennis even showed me the RO advisory when I was there one time.

I'm extremely careful with both of mine, always cognizant of what the pto is doing when I disengage it which is why on any implement I own that lacks an over running clutch, I have the 100 horse capacity clutch on the pto stub. In my favor is, I only own 2 implements without, my Landpride Bat Wing and my Kuhn Masterdrive rotary rake. Everything else is internally clutched so no driveline freewheel at all.

Would I want it upgraded, not really because I'm aware of it and take the necessary steps to mitigate it. Besides, because it entails a split, it would be very costly to upgrade the clutch.

I thought it was in poor corporate taste for Kubota not to inform owners of it. Actually Dennis fore warned me about it a long time ago so I was aware.

Easy answer is always run an over running ratchet clutch on the drive stub, something that Kubota should have addressed and didn't. The other issue is purchasing a clutch of sufficient capacity. Most of them are only rated for 50 horse pto maximum. I was lucky to find one rated for 130 but it wasn't cheap. Of course it was cheaper than a grenaded pto clutch.

If I ever sell either unit, or both, the clutches will go with them.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

PSB-2021-050-E; "Extend reformer system warranty for the lifetime of the machine The reformer system components will be warranted for the lifetime of the machine. A failure with obvious and deliberate customer interference will not be warrantable. Correct operation and understanding of the emissions system by the customer is vital to ensuring longevity and reliability."

From another thread on Kubota regen problems:

extended coverage is only going forward starting at the date of the policy change. They are refusing to reimburse me for mine since it occurred after the 5 year warranty and before the "change in policy". I'm out $3750 for parts plus labor (so over $4K . . . I thought it was more before the dealer sent me the work order). I wonder how many others forked over the money for the repairs . . . if I'd have waited for 6 months or so, I'd have gotten the repair for free.

Lifetime warranty= Life of the tractor (PSB-2021-050-E) dated 03/31/2021

I'll stand by my opinion of Kubota and will not buy a new one.

 

[SDT]

From another thread on Kubota regen problems:

Lifetime warranty= Life of the tractor (PSB-2021-050-E) dated 03/31/2021

I'll stand by my opinion of Kubota and will not buy a new one.

Bingo, and exactly what I said. Warranted for the lifetime of the tractor regardless of ownership.

I have a copy of the bulletin.

SDT

 

[plastikosmd]

So there is a policy coverage gap?
Maybe it can be argued as it seems they recognize there is an issue

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

So there is a policy coverage gap?
Maybe it can be argued as it seems they recognize there is an issue

If you bought an early model (2013-2016) and your regen system crapped out on you after the five year warranty and before 03/31/2021 you are left out in the cold by Kubota. As it stands, it took lots of bad press and 8 years for Kubota to address the problem and stand behind their product. They lost all kinds of credibility in my book and I will not buy a new Kubota because of that. It shouldn't be forgotten, there are a number of owners whose tractors logged as many shop hours as they did work hours. Does Kubota pay to pick up and delivery for warranty service?

 

[5030]

Does Kubota pay to pick up and delivery for warranty service?

Far as I know...No but then my dealer has never charged me for that, warranty or not.

 

[SDT]

If you bought an early model (2013-2016) and your regen system crapped out on you after the five year warranty and before 03/31/2021 you are left out in the cold by Kubota. As it stands, it took lots of bad press and 8 years for Kubota to address the problem and stand behind their product. They lost all kinds of credibility in my book and I will not buy a new Kubota because of that. It shouldn't be forgotten, there are a number of owners whose tractors logged as many shop hours as they did work hours. Does Kubota pay to pick up and delivery for warranty service?

As previously stated, the delay in extending the warranty was inexcusable.

No, Kubota does not pay for pick up and delivery, warranty work or otherwise, nor does anyone else. Some dealers will. Mine does not.

I certainly have no issues with your decision regarding Kubota purchases. Everyone should do as they like.

SDT