1025R Price Check + implements

[TractorN00b14]

Got quotes from my local JD dealer (KY) for my first tractor. Are these prices reasonable, or should I run away? Salesman says there's no more room for savings.

1025R TLB: $15,970
120R Loader w/bucket: $4,788
260B Backhoe: $7,662
Also getting radial tires, ballast box, 3rd hydraulic function on front end
Total: $29,115

60D MMM w/Load N Go: $3,270

AP10F 42" Pallet Forks: $1,000

AV20F 53in Grapple: $2,000

PHD100 Post Hole Digger 9": $2,000

Balance: $37,385 + tax

My use case: 1.6 acres. Needing to dig a lot of pipe to divert storm water and drains to a branch (we are downhill). Some wooded area to be cleared. Fence to be built. Grass to be mowed, of course. We estimate we could pay $23,000 (including the price of a lawn mower) to hire this work out and go with a lawn mower instead of a SCUT. But that's not as fun.

 

[s219]

What type of grass will you be mowing -- is it a finely manicured lawn or just basic ground cover / field. These tractors are cumbersome compared to a real mower. You won't be doing land clearing with a 1025R and the backhoe is limited, so I might almost recommend a dedicated riding mower and a more capable tractor as a better combination. My gut feel is that $37K is a big investment for this particular tractor.

 

[plastikosmd]

Sounds right for the package you are getting

let us know or post pics when u get it

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I think you should shop other manufacturers like Kioti, Kubota, Massey Ferguson, Ls, Branson.... You might be surprised at their prices and specs.

An example...

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https://www.tractorhouse.com/listing/for-sale/201540117/2022-ls-mt125-less-than-40-hp-tractors

There are a few more like Massey Ferguson, Kioti, etc.... it does pay to shop around.

 

[2manyrocks]

Did you check to see whether there are any John Deere rebate or incentive programs like the Farm Bureau or equine discounts? Sometimes the dealer doesn't know or pretends they don't know about these.

I've been researching the 1025r myself. It's fairly low to the ground compared to other tractors, IMO. That comes into play when working in the woods or when you dig up a bunch of ground with the backhoe and then have to navigate the dirt pile for some reason.

If I were you, I'd also look carefully at how that unit runs a 9" PHD. Are you sure the 1025r is really suited to that size?

What do you plan on lifting with the pallet forks?

Have you comparison priced a compact like the Kubota L2501HST? Bigger tires, heavier...

 

[Diggin It]

I see 31,690 for the TLBM without the rest.

I was quoted 21,450 in late 2018 for the same thing. How much of the 10,200 difference is factory price hikes and how much is the dealer?

I went with the LS for 16,932 for the same configuration. No idea what they're priced at now.

 

[Rdrcr]

I haven’t priced out a JD in years but, man, that seems like an awful lot of money for a 1025R w/implements. I’d suggest cross-shopping a couple additional JD dealers on the same tractor and, if you’re willing, look at some alternative brands.

Mike

 

[rademamj1]

There are better tractors with more capable backhoes for less price. I like the 1025R Green Machine also, but ultimately went with Kioti and saved $8800 and got a more capable machine. I gave up the mid-mount mower and just purchased a dedicated zero turn for that mowing job. And it gives a much better cut than any MMM.

 

[m1garand762]

Considering you have less than 2 acres and you want the backhoe for drainage I would rent a mini excavator for the weekend and get it all knocked out and not have an overpriced under power boat anchor. Backhoes that size are very slow and und power. Just look for a tractor loader and mower the post auger can be rented for next to nothing compared to what a new one cost and a ballast box can be made real easy

 

[2manyrocks]

I thought it was odd that the OP was buying a ballast box with all the other attachments, especially the backhoe.

I find it a hassle to take implements on/off. For backhoe work especially, I'd think he'd take the MMM off. Then there's the hassle of putting it back on.

For the price of the MMM alone, he could buy a zero turn that would be much easier to cut a yard with.

IMO, this deal is a total thumbs down.

 

[Diggin It]

Let's not get into the rental shtick again. It may work for some, but doesn't work for all.

Using the BH with or without the MMM is user option based on the task(s) at hand and terrain. I often use my BH with the MMM on. It isn't overly difficult to remove and reinstall one or both as needed. That may be a machine design difference though between brands.

My biggest gripe is the seat. While it will rotate, you can't do it while seated on these small machines due to knee room, fenders, ROPS, etc. You have to get off, rotate and get back on. That can be a real pain when digging a long ditch where you have to keep moving and can't use the bucket to creep.

 

[Rdrcr]

I gave up the mid-mount mower and just purchased a dedicated zero turn for that mowing job. And it gives a much better cut than any MMM.

I too gave up the MMM and purchased a dedicated ZTR for my mowing duties. I’m much happier with the quality of cut and mowing time (saved me 1 hour + per session).

Mike

 

[2manyrocks]

My experience in going from a regular riding mower to a ZTR was it cut my mowing time in half. If you are mowing an open area the size of a football field, a MMM might be a good choice. However, if you are mowing a normal residential yard with trees, landscaping, sidewalks and all the other to navigate, then a ZTR is going to save a lot of mowing time. If you add that time up on a weekly, monthly, seasonal, and yearly basis, that alone might sway the decision.

 

[LittleBittyBigJohn]

That is a big price tag for what you get. I would pass. I like mine, but no way I would pay that for a 1025R. Look for a 1023e or 1025R used. You may luck out and find one with a MMM. I have one and it does pretty good for a lawn tractor, but I use my big ZTR for my primary mower. Get aftermarket forks, forgo the grapple, although if I had a big stack of play money I would probably want one... I would hesitate to put a PHD on mine. My neighbor drilled my post holes with his JD 990 and we had to unscrew the auger out of the ground several times, although it was a 12". I don't have a ballast box, I use whatever implement I have on from the last job for counter weight. I can't speak on the back hoe, but it seems like quite the expense.

The one below will already save you $8,000 with less than 200 hours on it.




or this one with 25 hours on it.



1023e for 2000 less than the first one.

 

[hornett22]

JD is on crack! If you gotta have green plastic, bend over.

 

[plastikosmd]

^If they keep this up they will go out of business!

OP, let us know what you decide

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

It does sound like a heck of a lot of money for a sub-compact, but I think prices in general are out of hand these days.

That's the nice thing about the green ones, just when you think the tractors are expensive, wait until you see how much they get for "their" attachments.

 

[fishman]

I would echo the suggestion to skip the mmm and get a ztr. The time savings alone are worth it and the price difference between the two is minimal.

 

[bobrossi]

Got quotes from my local JD dealer (KY) for my first tractor. Are these prices reasonable, or should I run away? Salesman says there's no more room for savings.

1025R TLB: $15,970
120R Loader w/bucket: $4,788
260B Backhoe: $7,662
Also getting radial tires, ballast box, 3rd hydraulic function on front end
Total: $29,115

60D MMM w/Load N Go: $3,270

AP10F 42" Pallet Forks: $1,000

AV20F 53in Grapple: $2,000

PHD100 Post Hole Digger 9": $2,000

Balance: $37,385 + tax

My use case: 1.6 acres. Needing to dig a lot of pipe to divert storm water and drains to a branch (we are downhill). Some wooded area to be cleared. Fence to be built. Grass to be mowed, of course. We estimate we could pay $23,000 (including the price of a lawn mower) to hire this work out and go with a lawn mower instead of a SCUT. But that's not as fun.

The 1025 is a nice tractor but as others have said, it’s not very powerful. I have a similar older 2210 and I love it for mowing paddocks and moving dirt but I would never put a BH or PHD on it. Just not powerful enough and the forks I bought can barely fully lift up 6 two strings bales of hay. Not a work horse

 

[Buggs67]

I guess it depends on needs and dealers within a reasonable range. Sounds outrageous to me. My BIL bought an LS MT225e for about $20K w/the loader/bucket and BH. The loader is quick connect. Lots of B&W and I envy some. The Green Machine is just a Yannmar in disguise

Skip the MMM. For 2 acres even a regular lawn tractor will do a better job quicker and cheaper.