Comparison The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

You literally have no way of knowing what their future offerings will be, and for what price. Maybe JD will come out with something that is competitively priced.

Oh let me see here...you mean like the D series with no live PTO?

 

[Raul-02]

minus the fanboy

I gotta say I am a Fanboi of a fuel filler cap that I don't gotta climb on summpin' to reach.

 

[dodge man]

oh and what about yanmar? Didn't they make deer tractors which just got painted green and badged Deer?

Yanmar USED to make the smaller JD tractors but not anymore. Yanmar still makes the engines for their smaller tractors.

Its tough to say anything that contains so many parts like cars, trucks, and tractors is made entirely in the USA but JD is certainly made in the USA as much as anything else.

I had an uncle who worked at the Waterloo Iowa plant for years driving a fork lift. I know it paid well with really good benifits.

 

[plastikosmd]

I gotta say I am a Fanboi of a fuel filler cap that I don't gotta climb on summpin' to reach.

You would hate my jlg boom lift, schaeff excavator and fiat allis dozer then!

boom lift is by far the highest climb

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

see here...you mean like the D series with no live PTO?

Probably not lol, I had to search to see what a non-live pto was, seems miserable.

My entire point is that you're only really gimping your decision making by pre-excluding brands. If you're buying a 10 dollar stapler then it's probably okay to just go with what you know works. But for something that costs normally 20k and up, I'll spend the 30 minutes to check out JD's website. I know it didn't take me long when I was shopping to drop JD off my list, but I'm glad that I turned that stone just to make sure there wasn't something I might have wanted.

 

[Emainiac]

SSQA is actually a pretty bad system.

I have to disagree.

I'm able to change quickly between four different attachments, all from the comfort of my seat with the exception of open/close the arms.

I set them all up on two 4x4 rails and drive up to them... connect/disconnect.

Selection and price is much better too.

 

[4570Man]

I have to disagree.

I'm able to change quickly between four different attachments, all from the comfort of my seat with the exception of open/close the arms.

I set them all up on two 4x4 rails and drive up to them... connect/disconnect.

Selection and price is much better too.

Have you ever used a global mount? Just because something works doesn’t mean it’s not a bad design. About the selection. I agree with that part. That’s why I have SSQA.

 

[Emainiac]

Have you ever used a global mount? Just because something works doesn’t mean it’s not a bad design. About the selection. I agree with that part. That’s why I have SSQA.

Not yet. Looks like a fine system , but my goal was access to lots of attachments made by everyone under the sun. I bought a set of forks and stump bucket for under $1K (delivered) year and a half ago. (Probably a bit more than that now )

 

[kenmac]

Have you ever used a global mount? Just because something works doesn’t mean it’s not a bad design. About the selection. I agree with that part. That’s why I have SSQA.

Are you talking euro and global the same, or different ?. I have always called the set up on my CX105 as being euro. I like better than any other hook up, than any other I have tried.

Pull the lock back before getting on the tractor, drive to the bucket, or what ever, and never have to get back off the tractor to lock the bucket in place. the arm trips and the locking pins lock the bucket , etc, in place. No on and off to connect bucket, etc, up

 

[dodge man]

Nothing wrong with SSQA that I know of. The JD system? I see so many people bad mouth it and I wonder if they have ever looked at one. It’s so simple. The only drawback to the JD system is if you have access to a bunch of SSQA attachments. You can also go with an SSQA on a JD. A lot of attachments can be bought with the JD system.

 

[ptsg]

Nothing wrong with the SSQA? So the constant threads popping up frequently about attachments coming off resulting in twisted frames is nothing wrong? Honestly, I'm surprised there are not a bunch of lawsuits going on on that quick attach because an attachment came out and hurt someone.

At least the Euro quick attach offers a positive lock with a pin sliding through an hole. Even if the operator forget to lock the attachment, he really needs to try very hard, like almost jumping the tractor, for the thing to come out of the top hooks.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

Nothing wrong with the SSQA? So the constant threads popping up frequently about attachments coming off resulting in twisted frames is nothing wrong? Honestly, I'm surprised there are not a bunch of lawsuits going on on that quick attach because an attachment came out and hurt someone.

At least the Euro quick attach offers a positive lock with a pin sliding through an hole. Even if the operator forget to lock the attachment, he really needs to try very hard, like almost jumping the tractor, for the thing to come out of the top hooks.

There was a legal case I read about a couple of weeks ago about a Kioti dealer that had a grapple unmount from the SSQA on the loader and fell off and severely hurt him. Daedong ended up getting sued.

 

[Reddogs]

Probably not lol, I had to search to see what a non-live pto was, seems miserable.

My entire point is that you're only really gimping your decision making by pre-excluding brands. If you're buying a 10 dollar stapler then it's probably okay to just go with what you know works. But for something that costs normally 20k and up, I'll spend the 30 minutes to check out JD's website. I know it didn't take me long when I was shopping to drop JD off my list, but I'm glad that I turned that stone just to make sure there wasn't something I might have wanted.

30 minutes, I spend more time on what toaster I should get or what blender I should order online. Got to do a bit more than that.....

 

[4570Man]

Nothing wrong with the SSQA? So the constant threads popping up frequently about attachments coming off resulting in twisted frames is nothing wrong? Honestly, I'm surprised there are not a bunch of lawsuits going on on that quick attach because an attachment came out and hurt someone.

At least the Euro quick attach offers a positive lock with a pin sliding through an hole. Even if the operator forget to lock the attachment, he really needs to try very hard, like almost jumping the tractor, for the thing to come out of the top hooks.

My skid steer has a hydraulic lock which fixes most of the problems with it coming undone but it’s still not nearly as strong as the euro hitch. SSQA is also kinda aggravating to get aligned if it’s on unlevel ground where the euro is better about that.

 

[ovrszd]

Such as?

Only you would answer that question.

 

[sd455dan]

I have to disagree.

I'm able to change quickly between four different attachments, all from the comfort of my seat with the exception of open/close the arms.

I set them all up on two 4x4 rails and drive up to them... connect/disconnect.

Selection and price is much better too.

Have to agree after changing All of my attachments over from a Fast attach "PIN on set up" to skid steer.

If I ever get to lazy to flip a couple levers I probably should give up using a tractor.
edit:
I am not saying Euro hitch is not superior, But with the "availability" differences in USA for the time being SSQA is pretty much it. Unlatching problems sound like either the breakover center was not adjusted correctly on the levers or the latch completely missed? have seen a few where the angled lock pins did get bent as well, but not likely a real common problem, i hope

 

[Williy]

This what I have and its so easy to use:

willy

 

[ovrszd]

This what I have and its so easy to use:
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willy

Ummm,,,, you're on the wrong end of the tractor.

 

[Williy]

Dam, I'm always on the short end of the stick
a day late and a dollar short!

willy

 

[sd455dan]

Have to agree after changing All of my attachments over from a Fast attach "PIN on set up" to skid steer.

If I ever get to lazy to flip a couple levers I probably should give up using a tractor.
edit:
I am not saying Euro hitch is not superior, But with the "availability" differences in USA for the time being SSQA is pretty much it. Unlatching problems sound like either the breakover center was not adjusted correctly on the levers or the latch completely missed? have seen a few where the angled lock pins did get bent as well, but not likely a real common problem, i hope

I stand corrected on SS

Was in a hurry, "First mistake" yesterday switching from bucket to forks and snapped the levers down when the lower mount on the right side was in the dirt... moved a roll top desk and was going to switch back to the bucket when I went to unlock the right latch notice I had completely missed the lower hole, on top of that the upper angle inverted V that holds the right side of the loaders QA had partially popped out since the lower latch was not locked in when latched.

OOps
In a sense it was my laziness that caused the mis latching, Just glad that I didn't drop the roll top and or damage anything.