Why isn't anyone talking about the Deutz Fahr 5080d?

[Williy]

Here is a bunch of tractors for sale:

2022 DEUTZ FAHR 5080D at DuckDuckGo

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Spec's for the tractor: https://www.lectura-specs.com/en/mo...ry/4wd-tractors-deutz-fahr/5080-d-ls-11732060

One site listed the same tractor you want cost
was $50,900

willy

 

[WM75Guy]

We just had a Deutz Fahr dealership open in Athens. They have a dozen or so tractors on the lot so far. Have not had a chance to stop in yet.

 

[redman135]

Hello Letthegoodpinesroll. You will find that the controls are colour coded. Blue =hydraulics, orange= transmission/brakes, and yellow = pto. This should help in instructing beginners.
The gearbox on your tractor is a 15 speed and sounds similar to the 24 speed further up the range. It handles like the JD Quad shift if you have driven one.
Do you have a sunroof in your cab for high level work?(stacking haysheds) if so you will be pleased to know that the shroud does not buzz, my bosses tractors are 7 and 15 years old and the cabs are inpressively quiet for their age in terms of no squeaks,rattles or buzzes. Engine noise is also low.
You say you are on hills so I would be advise you to widen the rear track for stability.
3 Pairs of scv's mean you can have a 3 way hydraulic back blade. I recommend you get a tail wheel, as it way ,way easier to operate. (I used to do house pads and footpaths years ago,with a back blade.It's bobcats these days)
Under New Zealand conditions the aircon is a bit weak. Contractors report good results using a tint on the windows to reduce cab temps.
Good luck and we would like a product review at 3 months and 12 months. What is right, and what is wrong AND WHY.

 

[redman135]

To those who refered to Fendt tractors, they are a good tractor BUT are complicated and require some prior knowledge. It is a push button tractor with things hidden in multi layered menu's. Also unless you have an americanised operator manual, the european terms may not match US terms. Try finding a specific function when it is written under a strange term you never heard of. Very frustrating. But they are VERY confortable, as they are aimed at the professionals.

 

[Number15]

We just had a Deutz Fahr dealership open in Athens. They have a dozen or so tractors on the lot so far. Have not had a chance to stop in yet.

Funny, we have one in our Athens as well (TN)

 

[Hay Dude]

To those who refered to Fendt tractors, they are a good tractor BUT are complicated and require some prior knowledge. It is a push button tractor with things hidden in multi layered menu's. Also unless you have an americanised operator manual, the european terms may not match US terms. Try finding a specific function when it is written under a strange term you never heard of. Very frustrating. But they are VERY confortable, as they are aimed at the professionals.

Slowly taking over in my area. Lots of them out there. I think farmers were looking for higher comfort and ease of operation with higher road speeds. Theres an excellent AGCO dealer in my area moving them rapidly.
It seemed like JCB would make it as a large custom farming tractor and they still are gaining, but small gains. Fendt has seemed to be everything JCB is and more.
Personally, I’d like to see someone stuff an L-9 Cummins in a legacy brand, like Massey or Challenger, or a CNH and I think farmers might buy them.

 

[Raul-02]

5D Keyline - Deutz-Fahr America

deutz-fahramerica.com

Hmmm I clicked the Link
I got one one of those WARNING pages advising me that I was leaving FACEBOOK.
Does Facebook own this forum?

 

[Raul-02]

2022 DEUTZ FAHR 5080D for $55K

Up to 13.2 gpm hydraulic flow; 2 rear remote valves standard
That's not bad but by comparison, my Kioto DK 47 has 16 if I recall correctly

 

[LouNY]

Looking at the specs it seems like a decent tractor, I wouldn't be afraid of one.

 

[Williy]

Raul

Total Pump Flow

16.49 gpm

willy

 

[Bavarian]

I had a chance to look at a 5080D.
At some point, it's a budget tractor. But in many points they are different from other budget tractors.
No other tractor that I searched had real 4 wheel brakes.
The front axle itself is immense.
Radial tires at a decent size and no cutting wheels at the front.
The cab layout is acceptable, smooth shifting gears.
Tilt and telescoping steering wheel.
All widows open, even the windshield.
Sun roof with shade and also to open.
The cab version is listed at 3.2 metric tons, which comes is at around 7200 pounds. If weight is a must, thats an advantage.
Adjustable wheel positions.

Now a few down sides:
Mechanical shuttle.
The loader joystick could be more integrated. But a loader is not such a substantial equipment in Europe. That's why it looks like an add on.
No extendable lower links.
No 3 pt control at the back, not even as an option.

We are making a few changes at our place. That includes the tractor. The 6430 Premium may have to go and the 5080D is the only replacement that I'd consider at the moment.

 

[Raul-02]

Why isn't anyone talking about the Deutz Fahr 5080d?

There is very poor dealer penetration across the nation. Only a nut would buy a tractor sold only by a dealer that was three states away.

 

[LouNY]

There is very poor dealer penetration across the nation. Only a nut would buy a tractor sold only by a dealer that was three states away.

I would say that depends on the dealer and the individual. Many people are comfortable doing any repair that may be necessary.

 

[rScotty]

There is very poor dealer penetration across the nation. Only a nut would buy a tractor sold only by a dealer that was three states away.

I would say that depends on the dealer and the individual. Many people are comfortable doing any repair that may be necessary.

Put me down as that sort of a nut. Some of my favorite tractors are not serviced by any dealer at all. We are separated by geography and by decades.

As this nut views tractors, most of the parts on tractors are so similar in design and so reliable that the tractor can be successfully maintained by anyone with the bare minimum in mechanical ability.

The parts of modern tractors that are more complex are also beyond the ability of anyone working twisting wrenches for a local dealer. So an owner knows that he will have to study up and do any of that work himself.
Luckily, while designing and manufacturing tractors is difficult - simply maintaining and repairing them is not.
rScotty

 

[rScotty]

I had a chance to look at a 5080D.
At some point, it's a budget tractor. But in many points they are different from other budget tractors.
No other tractor that I searched had real 4 wheel brakes.
The front axle itself is immense.
Radial tires at a decent size and no cutting wheels at the front.
The cab layout is acceptable, smooth shifting gears.
Tilt and telescoping steering wheel.
All widows open, even the windshield.
Sun roof with shade and also to open.
The cab version is listed at 3.2 metric tons, which comes is at around 7200 pounds. If weight is a must, thats an advantage.
Adjustable wheel positions.

Now a few down sides:
Mechanical shuttle.
The loader joystick could be more integrated. But a loader is not such a substantial equipment in Europe. That's why it looks like an add on.
No extendable lower links.
No 3 pt control at the back, not even as an option.

We are making a few changes at our place. That includes the tractor. The 6430 Premium may have to go and the 5080D is the only replacement that I'd consider at the moment.

On that list, the one that bothers me a little would are the mechanical shuttle - don't they have an electric/hydraulic option? It's only a little motion, but I sure prefer the hydraulic type. Not a deal killer, but a pain.

The lack of extendable lower arms & no 3 pt control would be deal killers for me.
As would thread-adjustable side links and chain sway preventers if it had those as well.

I grew up with that type of 3pt, but today all of those things are only on the cheapest tractors. They work OK, but the alternatives are better.

Anything can be changed.
rScotty

 

[Bavarian]

No option for the shuttle. Except you go up to a bigger series.
It has the turn buckle style stabilizers. I personally prefer that style over a pin system.
I'm not changing attachments every day or multiple times a day. The non extendable links should not be a problem for me.

To the previous posters regarding dealer network. Yes there aren't many. But the closest dealer to me is as close as any other major brand. They are all within 5 miles along one road.

 

[rScotty]

No option for the shuttle. Except you go up to a bigger series.
It has the turn buckle style stabilizers. I personally prefer that style over a pin system.
I'm not changing attachments every day or multiple times a day. The non extendable links should not be a problem for me.

To the previous posters regarding dealer network. Yes there aren't many. But the closest dealer to me is as close as any other major brand. They are all within 5 miles along one road.

Ok. I change 3pt implements often and a little refinement in the 3pt makes a big difference to me.

As I said, I was perfectly happy with manual range and shuttle shifting and manual 3pts - until I discovered that better ways existed.

But the manual ways have the advantage of simplicity.
That's important to a nut.

 

[Raul-02]

Put me down as that sort of a nut.

The old tractor kind of nut?
I like old machinery. But I don't like restoring it. I restored a 1950s Mercedes then drove it all through divinities school and sold it when it started acting up.

 

[Raul-02]

To the previous posters regarding dealer network. Yes there aren't many.

I'm 3 hours away from the nearest.

 

[Bavarian]

3 hours would be too much. In less than an hour I could get to any major dealer.
And I thought we live in a remote area.