Mahindra 5155 Anyone?

[DaBear3428]

...rattles like crazy. Yes, that's what I'm getting. 'Unbalanced' is a good word for it. And I ain't of a mind to accept that as normal at this point. As you said, it changes frequency as the rpm moves higher or lower, however that does not negate the vibration, it simply changes the pitch of the resonance. I've a call to the dealer for my guy to check any other 5100s he has on his lot to see if they do anything similar. Longer term effects won't be good. That's just too much shakin' going on.

sorry you are having this issue, let us know what you find out

 

[SoldierP]

Here's my setup for a logging winch on the back. Top link with hoses from Amazon. Measured the OEM top link and came as close as I could with the hyd one. Also put in a control valve (gold knob) to slow down the movement. Seems you would need another set of remotes to also have a hyd side movement or a "switch" to change from one ram to the other.

Hydraulic Top Link Cat. 1-1 with Locking Block 20 7/8” - 31 7/8” with 2 x Hose.

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[lake.water]

welcome aboard, if you have time post some photos of your top link, I'm planning to do one myself.

Thanks! This thread was very helpful when I was shopping for a tractor. Here's a pic from the first run with it. It is close to contacting when at a high angle, but I haven't seen that it touches. I'll double check that this weekend. If I had it to do over, I would probably get the next size up from this one. I thought I'd allowed enough extra length for the Pat's Quick Hitch, but I think one day I will wish it extended another inch or so. I'll have to find and post the Tractor Supply PNs for the cylinder and hoses.

Edit to add that the TS hoses worked great, but the tractor end leaked at first. I had to redo the fitting connections with tape and retighten them. No leaks now.

 

[John stark]

...rattles like crazy. Yes, that's what I'm getting. 'Unbalanced' is a good word for it. And I ain't of a mind to accept that as normal at this point. As you said, it changes frequency as the rpm moves higher or lower, however that does not negate the vibration, it simply changes the pitch of the resonance. I've a call to the dealer for my guy to check any other 5100s he has on his lot to see if they do anything similar. Longer term effects won't be good. That's just too much shakin' going on.

ill pay closer attention to this issue next time iam on it, seems to be internal , somewhere between the rear housing and transmission, i guess i should have been more clear about when iam feeling/hearing this, its only when tractor is in neutral as soon as you let the clutch out and the internals are free spooling in neutral it appears, i dont notice this when its in gear under load, i might be just paranoid, iam always listening and feeling for something wrong, i even do this in my truck.... its a curse...lol,,, ill keep ya posted

 

[DaBear3428]

Here's my setup for a logging winch on the back. Top link with hoses from Amazon. Measured the OEM top link and came as close as I could with the hyd one. Also put in a control valve (gold knob) to slow down the movement. Seems you would need another set of remotes to also have a hyd side movement or a "switch" to change from one ram to the other.

Hydraulic Top Link Cat. 1-1 with Locking Block 20 7/8” - 31 7/8” with 2 x Hose.View attachment 761309​

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Do you mind posting a link to the gold control valve?

 

[DaBear3428]

I just received a call from Mahindra quality control asking questions about my spider gear failure. Nice conversation he was asking questions about what happened and what I was doing with the tractor at the time of the failure, anyway he is forwarding the parts to India for analysis. I asked for feedback on the final conclusion and will pass it on when it happens.

Must say i'm impressed that they are following up, the repair was handled by the dealer without issue and the tone of this conversation was pleasant, he was just asking relevant questions needed to help determine if there is a design problem that needs to be addressed.

 

[SoldierP]

Do you mind posting a link to the gold control valve?

Hydraulic Flow Control Needle Valve, 1/2″ NPT Ports: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific You want to get one that allows flow in both directions like this one. Many are one way only. This one allows up to 22 gal/min flow so I really had to tighten it up for this use. Just cracked it open and the ram moves slowly.

 

[DaBear3428]

Hydraulic Flow Control Needle Valve, 1/2″ NPT Ports: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific You want to get one that allows flow in both directions like this one. Many are one way only. This one allows up to 22 gal/min flow so I really had to tighten it up for this use. Just cracked it open and the ram moves slowly.

great info thanks

 

[Andy1969]

Just took possession of a new 5155 a couple weeks ago. Downsized from a 91hp JD 5525. Less than 20 hrs on the Mahindra thus far. Wondering if y'all have experienced any appreciable vibration in your own 5100's to date? I'm getting some significant resonance between 1800 through 2000 rpm. Makes the brake lever buzz loudly like it's coming unglued. Above 2000 the engine vibration continues and buzzes other stuff as well. This occurs under all conditions, stationary and otherwise - neutral or otherwise.

Graded my driveway tonight with my box blade and I intentionally ran the RPM’s up to 2000 and 2300. While it does buzz a little at the higher RPM’s it is not what I would call excessive or annoying. I typically have not run it that fast because I don’t feel I need to for the majority of things that I do. I tend to run it around 1,750 at the E-PTO speed and it is a little quieter but overall I find this tractor to be actually less noisy than other diesels I’ve been around and operated. Just my observations.

 

[Brentthemouse]

The brochure for the 5155 lists the weight at 5,390 lbs, but what is the actual weight of the tractor with the bucket on? Also, what would be the best trailer to haul this tractor with?

 

[Andy1969]

The brochure for the 5155 lists the weight at 5,390 lbs, but what is the actual weight of the tractor with the bucket on? Also, what would be the best trailer to haul this tractor with?

The published weight is not correct. I had mine weighed on a certified scale. The tractor, loader, and loaded rear R4 tires was 8,940 lbs without me on it. So you’re going to likely need a trailer rated for 12,000 lbs to haul it safely and legally. It’s a heavy machine! Hope this helps.

 

[DaBear3428]

The brochure for the 5155 lists the weight at 5,390 lbs, but what is the actual weight of the tractor with the bucket on? Also, what would be the best trailer to haul this tractor with?

the loader is another 1700 lbs so that is over 7000 lbs

 

[DaBear3428]

The published weight is not correct. I had mine weighed on a certified scale. The tractor, loader, and loaded rear R4 tires was 8,940 lbs without me on it. So you’re going to likely need a trailer rated for 12,000 lbs to haul it safely and legally. It’s a heavy machine! Hope this helps.

what do you think the loaded tires added? i'm calculating a bare weight for the tractor and loader of around 7100 lbs so if the loaded tires added 900 lbs per side that makes 8900 lbs by my calculation based on factory 5390 lbs for bare tractor. I'm figuring 9000 lbs for tractor before you add implements is a good number to figure for towing safely. add the weight of the trailer itself say 2000 lbs and a 12000 lbs rated trailer would only have 1000 lbs for implements, i figure you need to plan on a 14k trailer allowing for 3000 lbs of accesories. needless to say my current 7k trailer and 6200 lbs rated tahoe will not handle it.

 

[Brentthemouse]

what do you think the loaded tires added? i'm calculating a bare weight for the tractor and loader of around 7100 lbs so if the loaded tires added 900 lbs per side that makes 8900 lbs by my calculation based on factory 5390 lbs for bare tractor. I'm figuring 9000 lbs for tractor before you add implements is a good number to figure for towing safely. add the weight of the trailer itself say 2000 lbs and a 12000 lbs rated trailer would only have 1000 lbs for implements, i figure you need to plan on a 14k trailer allowing for 3000 lbs of accesories. needless to say my current 7k trailer and 6200 lbs rated tahoe will not handle it.

My idea was getting a 14k gvwr trailer, just not sure I have enough truck to tow it lol

 

[DaBear3428]

My idea was getting a 14k gvwr trailer, just not sure I have enough truck to tow it lol

towing it is no problem, stopping it is

 

[Andy1969]

what do you think the loaded tires added? i'm calculating a bare weight for the tractor and loader of around 7100 lbs so if the loaded tires added 900 lbs per side that makes 8900 lbs by my calculation based on factory 5390 lbs for bare tractor. I'm figuring 9000 lbs for tractor before you add implements is a good number to figure for towing safely. add the weight of the trailer itself say 2000 lbs and a 12000 lbs rated trailer would only have 1000 lbs for implements, i figure you need to plan on a 14k trailer allowing for 3000 lbs of accesories. needless to say my current 7k trailer and 6200 lbs rated tahoe will not handle it.

The original question wasn’t what size trailer was needed for the tractor and loader and loaded tires and implements. It was what size trailer would be needed for the tractor with the loader and loaded rears. And at roughly 8,940 lbs for those items a 12,000 pound rated trailer would be plenty to haul it. If you want to also haul additional implements, and maybe a spare diesel tank, and a ballast box, etc then a 14,000 pound rated trailer is not sufficient either. If you intend to haul more than the tractor with the loader, then not only trailer weight rating is different but so would the physical size of the trailer. All of that “stuff” takes up a lot of room and would require a pretty long trailer as well just to physically fit it all. So you’d definitely be into at least a 3/4 ton truck and a really big trailer to go with.

 

[Andy1969]

what do you think the loaded tires added? i'm calculating a bare weight for the tractor and loader of around 7100 lbs so if the loaded tires added 900 lbs per side that makes 8900 lbs by my calculation based on factory 5390 lbs for bare tractor. I'm figuring 9000 lbs for tractor before you add implements is a good number to figure for towing safely. add the weight of the trailer itself say 2000 lbs and a 12000 lbs rated trailer would only have 1000 lbs for implements, i figure you need to plan on a 14k trailer allowing for 3000 lbs of accesories. needless to say my current 7k trailer and 6200 lbs rated tahoe will not handle it.

The loaded R4 rears add 685 lbs each based on a 75% fill and rim guard’s table. The Mahindra data says that the bare tractor weighs 5,390 lbs. And the tractor and loader weighs 6,690 lbs. if you add the 1,370 lbs that the beet juice adds, then that comes to 8,060 lbs. Thats 880 lbs less than what mine actually weighs. So as I said, Mahindra’s stated weight is not correct. Either the tractor or the loader or both combined weigh about 900 lbs than what they publish.

 

[DaBear3428]

The original question wasn’t what size trailer was needed for the tractor and loader and loaded tires and implements. It was what size trailer would be needed for the tractor with the loader and loaded rears. And at roughly 8,940 lbs for those items a 12,000 pound rated trailer would be plenty to haul it. If you want to also haul additional implements, and maybe a spare diesel tank, and a ballast box, etc then a 14,000 pound rated trailer is not sufficient either. If you intend to haul more than the tractor with the loader, then not only trailer weight rating is different but so would the physical size of the trailer. All of that “stuff” takes up a lot of room and would require a pretty long trailer as well just to physically fit it all. So you’d definitely be into at least a 3/4 ton truck and a really big trailer to go with.

I do not think he was including loaded tires.

"The brochure for the 5155 lists the weight at 5,390 lbs, but what is the actual weight of the tractor with the bucket on? Also, what would be the best trailer to haul this tractor with?"

and you may be correct that it may take more than a 14K trailer. IMO a 12K would be too close, a 14k would be the min IMO. at 14K (with brakes and a good controller). getting a trailer over 14k starts getting expensive. so IMO start looking at a setup rated at 14k figure out how long it needs to be and go from there. IMO the common axles are #3500 and #7000 so you end up with 7k and 14k rated trailers as common as dirt, everything else gets rare and more expensive. if he was not going to do anything other that haul the bare tractor with FEL and loaded tires the 12k would do it but would not allow for much else and i hate towing at the capacity of a trailer, stuff just seems to go wrong faster and the last thing you want is to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with a $30k tractor on the side of the road. I guess that the real answer depends on what else he is planning on towing with the tractor.

 

[DaBear3428]

The loaded R4 rears add 685 lbs each based on a 75% fill and rim guard’s table. The Mahindra data says that the bare tractor weighs 5,390 lbs. And the tractor and loader weighs 6,690 lbs. if you add the 1,370 lbs that the beet juice adds, then that comes to 8,060 lbs. Thats 880 lbs less than what mine actually weighs. So as I said, Mahindra’s stated weight is not correct. Either the tractor or the loader or both combined weigh about 900 lbs than what they publish.

you mean more than right? you are adding 1300 lbs for FEL, i cannot find the doc but i think i saw 1690 lbs shipping weight for the FEL. anyway we are beating this to death, I think the original question is answered min 12k and if you plan on taking much along with you 14k at least.

 

[Brentthemouse]

I do not think he was including loaded tires.

"The brochure for the 5155 lists the weight at 5,390 lbs, but what is the actual weight of the tractor with the bucket on? Also, what would be the best trailer to haul this tractor with?"

and you may be correct that it may take more than a 14K trailer. IMO a 12K would be too close, a 14k would be the min IMO. at 14K (with brakes and a good controller). getting a trailer over 14k starts getting expensive. so IMO start looking at a setup rated at 14k figure out how long it needs to be and go from there. IMO the common axles are #3500 and #7000 so you end up with 7k and 14k rated trailers as common as dirt, everything else gets rare and more expensive. if he was not going to do anything other that haul the bare tractor with FEL and loaded tires the 12k would do it but would not allow for much else and i hate towing at the capacity of a trailer, stuff just seems to go wrong faster and the last thing you want is to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with a $30k tractor on the side of the road. I guess that the real answer depends on what else he is planning on towing with the tractor.

I was only planning on the tractor with the front end loader and loaded tires, nothing else