SSQA, From the Seat Release

[ruffdog]

Here is the Bob-tach system on the Toolcat.

 

[DK35vince]

I confess that I haven't taken my manual ones off to clean them up and check how they work.

But I "think" that whether the lever actuation is manual or electric or hydraulic the only difference is in how the cam lever is being moved - it doesn't change the spring force that is used to engage the vertical tapered locking pin of the SSQA into the bottom slot on the bucket.

rScotty

Don't forget, if electric or hydraulic locked the cylinders that lock the handles also have resistance on the handles to prevent them from unlocking if a stick would bump them vs manual

 

[scootr]

Here is the Bob-tach system on the Toolcat.

OH Great - NOW there is something else I want for my toys.

 

[4570Man]

I confess that I haven't taken my manual ones off to clean them up and check how they work.

But I "think" that whether the lever actuation is manual or electric or hydraulic the only difference is in how the cam lever is being moved - it doesn't change the spring force that is used to engage the vertical tapered locking pin of the SSQA into the bottom slot on the bucket.

I could be wrong on that; like I say I haven't taken the assembly apart to study it. Someone who has is welcome to explain.

rScotty

The spring isn’t the weak link. The power one is continuously held down. It would take a catastrophic failure for the hydraulic one to come undone. Brush can undo the manual levers.

 

[5030]

Both my SSQA's one is OEM Kubota the other isn't, have grease fitting on both the arm pins and on the slide locks but I still always look to make sure the tapered pins are in full engagement. On a smaller unit I can see the advantage, on mine, not so much, besides, only takes about 10 seconds to engage manually.

 

[Hay Dude]

The advantage is during an 8-10 hour day of switching between a log grapple and a bucket, it’s much easier and more efficient. If only switching implements once in a while, it’s not needed.
Go watch backhoe operators switch between a broom and a bucket, forks, etc. All they have are IT (integrated tool) carriers on them.

 

[4570Man]

The advantage is during an 8-10 hour day of switching between a log grapple and a bucket, it’s much easier and more efficient. If only switching implements once in a while, it’s not needed.
Go watch backhoe operators switch between a broom and a bucket, forks, etc. All they have are IT (integrated tool) carriers on them.

I agree for the average homeowner or farmer that probably isn’t going to change between their bucket or hay spear more than every few days it’s not needed. I have a multiple skid steer implements and switch them out frequently. It’s nice for doing that.

 

[Hay Dude]

I agree for the average homeowner or farmer that probably isn’t going to change between their bucket or hay spear more than every few days it’s not needed. I have a multiple skid steer implements and switch them out frequently. It’s nice for doing that.

Kinda agree, but you forgot about something: attachment weight and size.

When attachments get very large-like 8’ or larger, they also get very heavy. Shoving around a 5’ bucket is a joke compared to an 8’ bucket.

Having power attachments for large heavy implements is easier on the back and prevents injury. Thats why you see so many newer 125-250 HP tractors with loaders, backhoes and even large skid steers equipped with them.

It’s smarter, safer and easier on the back-even if it’s just a few times a week.

 

[SPYDERLK]

About how I feel. It's clever and I'd use it on a smaller tractor. On the M59 with 4000 lbs of lift, the latch pins can get a little bit sticky. Half the time I can work the levers by hand - but the other times it helps to use a handy 4 foot cheater pipe.

I also like to visually inspect that the bottom pins engage and that means getting down off and taking a close look. The visibility on the SSQA fron the tractor cockpit isn't all that good.
One time last year one pin didn't fully engage and over a bump the empty bucket went sideways & almost came off. Just dumb luck I didn't end up tweaking some part of the SSQA or loader. Now I always get off and check.

On a smaller barnyard chore tractor I'd think it would be worth doing. The video is definitely worth watching if for no other reason than to see an old style craftsman at work.

rScotty

Hi rScotty. Isnt your pin engagement visible from the seat if you lift the implement and curl forward?

 

[Fallon]

I did (and redid with a better actuator) that on my old L3200 back in 2014. Linear actuator for power SSQA?

I have most or all of the parts to make a hydraulic one on my now 5 year old L4060hstc. But haven't been motivated enough to complete the build.

Hydraulic will be better, but the right linear actuator will be cheaper & easier.

 

[mpsmith60]

Glad to see others are interested in an SSQA remote control! FYI, I just released Part 2 of the Building an Inexpensive SSQA Remote Control video series:

I hope you find it helpful. Thanks for your interest in it!

 

[scootr]

I approve this message Nice video on a great job modding, explaining, and teaching here.
Don't forget to like this video on You Tube, Guys.

 

[Hay Dude]

Whats really cool is having the choice between hydraulic quick release from the seat and still having hydraulic outlet function on the loader.

 

[grsthegreat]

I thought about making one of these years ago, but then decided against it for reason stated above….dont switch implements often enough.

a friend of mine owns 2 excavators. One has hydraulic bucket coupler, one doesn't. For that vehicle, i wouldnt leave home without the hydraulic latch. Way, way easier. Think its called exchange or something like that. On bobcat excavator.

but who knows. One day i may get bored and add it to my tractor system. But id have to be pretty bored.

 

[npalen]

Someone has perhaps mentioned this but it seems that 3rd function and hydraulic SSQA go hand in hand. Most implements don't require 3rd function so the the hoses stay "quick connected" to the SSQA. Then, when a grapple, for example, is attached and the SSQA is "engaged" the two hoses are then switched to the grapple, right? Removing the grapple then moves the hoses to the SSQA.

I can see the economy of the electric actuated SSQA but if you're going to have the 3rd function why not make use of it on the SSQA clamping? It gives you a clean place to store the hoses and quick couplers when not using the 3rdF, right? The hoses have to be handled regardless when mounting and dismounting a 3rdF attachment.

 

[Hay Dude]

I would do this by size/weight of attachments. Heavy things like big buckets, harley rakes, snowplows are easier to scoop or hook onto, then push a button and lock. The also “stay put” on the ground because they‘re heavy and wont keep nudging forward when you try to hook them up.

 

[npalen]

Good point! I think you're saying that a person could engage the SSQA locks from the seat while keeping forward "push" on the attachment.

 

[ptsg]

Someone has perhaps mentioned this but it seems that 3rd function and hydraulic SSQA go hand in hand. Most implements don't require 3rd function so the the hoses stay "quick connected" to the SSQA. Then, when a grapple, for example, is attached and the SSQA is "engaged" the two hoses are then switched to the grapple, right? Removing the grapple then moves the hoses to the SSQA.

I can see the economy of the electric actuated SSQA but if you're going to have the 3rd function why not make use of it on the SSQA clamping? It gives you a clean place to store the hoses and quick couplers when not using the 3rdF, right? The hoses have to be handled regardless when mounting and dismounting a 3rdF attachment.

It's very common for loaders in Europe to have 3rd and 4rd function, mostly used with a logging grapple to open/close and rotate left/right but there a lot more uses too. One of these circuits can indeed stay dedicated to an hydraulic quick attach lock.

Since most 3rd functions are done with diverter valves, it's very easy to add more functions on the loader since with most diverter valves you can just stack them together and just needs a couple of extra quick connects and wires.

 

[Hay Dude]

Good point! I think you're saying that a person could engage the SSQA locks from the seat while keeping forward "push" on the attachment.

or lift it with upper attachment point, roll it back and shoot your pins or wedges

 

[4570Man]

Whats really cool is having the choice between hydraulic quick release from the seat and still having hydraulic outlet function on the loader.

My skid steer has a dedicated hydraulic function for the latch. I can latch and unlatch the bucket and still maintain full use of my auxiliary lines. Which isn’t a big deal all in itself but it doesn’t require switching anything around to use either function.