Gov't mandates gas can flame arrestors.

[Blue Mule]

When the EPA screwed up something as simple as a gasoline jug several years ago, that proved once and for all that those idiots can ruin and will ruin everything eventually.

Now my jugs swell up like a blowfish in the summer sun because there is no vent. It's sketchy as h***. Makes me think it's just a matter of time until the jug ruptures and fuel goes everywhere. Yeah, that's great for the environment. Not to mention personal safety.

And I've seen 20 different takes on contraptions used for the pour spouts on these new cans, and 99% of them don't work or require an engineering degree to figure out. Sigh...

Society today isn't progressive. It's regressive.

 

[Spike56]

When the EPA screwed up something as simple as a gasoline jug several years ago, that proved once and for all that those idiots can ruin and will ruin everything eventually.

Now my jugs swell up like a blowfish in the summer sun because there is no vent. It's sketchy as h***. Makes me think it's just a matter of time until the jug ruptures and fuel goes everywhere. Yeah, that's great for the environment. Not to mention personal safety.

And I've seen 20 different takes on contraptions used for the pour spouts on these new cans, and 99% of them don't work or require an engineering degree to figure out. Sigh...

Society today isn't progressive. It's regressive.

>> Now my jugs swell up like a blowfish in the summer sun because there is no vent. It's sketchy as h***. Makes me think it's just a matter of time until the jug
>> ruptures and fuel goes everywhere. Yeah, that's great for the environment. Not to mention personal safety
I agree. Have had (2) plastic cans leak. Luckily, the leaks on both were in the top seam. Otherwise, it could have been a disaster in the back of my pickup. I think the expansion and contraction or just the wear from lifting the top handle. Either way the whole EPA requirements in my opinion have made them LESS safe. Others have recommended metal cans.
I may try but I keep (4 or 5) 5-gallon cans here. The "Justright" Type2 cans are $100+ each. Price about 1/2 for Type 1, but I'd really prefer Type2. Just haven't been able to turn loose of that much money for a gas can.
Type I safety cans only have 1 opening – pour & fill from the same opening. Type II safety cans have 2 openings – one for pouring and one for filling – the fill opening serves as a vent when pouring.

 

[KennyG]

I think I've had mine 4 years or so.

Like any battery powered HF item, it's a crap shoot. Mine died on the second usage.

 

[GeneV]

I buy new fuel can. Then, I go to tractor supply and buy that thingie they sell. I come home to my new fuel can, remove the "government" spout, place it in the garbage can, install the thingie I bought at tractor supply. The end.

 

[Dwellonroof]

When you dig way down to the bottom of the problem it boils down to control and at the end thy will keep all your money and dole out to you a small portion so they can waste the rest.

 

[MTGreen]

You should take a visit to China if you question why the EPA exists

 

[mrmikey]

I buy new fuel can. Then, I go to tractor supply and buy that thingie they sell. I come home to my new fuel can, remove the "government" spout, place it in the garbage can, install the thingie I bought at tractor supply. The end.

Same here.
I wonder if it's actually not some sort of a gov't thing to increase spending

 

[GeneV]

Same here.
I wonder if it's actually not some sort of a gov't thing to increase spending

Your conspiracy theorizing here, and I like it!

 

[Muhammad]

Discussing the tech and equipment is fine. Focusing on the policy is not. That's not what this forum is for. Please get back to discussing the equipment side of things so we can keep this thread open.

 

[GeneV]

Discussing the tech and equipment is fine. Focusing on the policy is not. That's not what this forum is for. Please get back to discussing the equipment side of things so we can keep this thread open.

Wait ok, so what do you mean, like we can't bag on the EPA in this thread? Like I'm not being a smartass, just asking can we only talk here about the pros/cons of flame arrestors as they're mandating?

 

[Torvy]

That is the deal here. Political discussions are off limits.

 

[2manyrocks]

This 2014 news story said 80 lawsuits had been filed over the previous 10 years involving alleged flashbacks inside gas cans. At the time the 2014 story published, the gas can makers had just released the results of a 2012 industry funded study into flame arrestors in 2014. The industry study group was created in 2007. The story also stated that "The CPSC counted at least 11 deaths and 1,200 emergency room visits involving gas can explosions during the pouring of gasoline since 1998."

New Tests Show Flame Arresters Can Stop Gas Can Explosions

First test results released to the public show six of 13 designs stopped gas cans from exploding.

www.nbcnews.com

One has to wonder about the details of each accident. How many injuries happened when someone attempted to refuel a hot engine? Who tried to use gas as an accelerant to get a fire started? Who used a lighter to look inside a fuel tank? How severe were these injuries?

By comparison, youth sports account for 2.7 million ER visits annually. https://www.usnews.com/news/healthi...th sports, according to new federal estimates.

 

[TractorTYMe]

I think we need to remove all warning labels and let life sort dis out. We're in strong need of such in these times. People has lost the sense of reasoning and logic thinking.

 

[Eagle1]

Common sense is not so common and kids are not being taught life skills.

 

[TractorTYMe]

That's because we're not allowing them to fail, pain is the best teacher in the world but nobody wants to go to his class.

 

[2manyrocks]

I doubt anyone actually reads the warning labels other than the lawyers and products liability consultants hired by manufacturers to try to head off lawsuits.

 

[Eagle1]

That's because we're not allowing them to fail, pain is the best teacher in the world but nobody wants to go to his class.

I always told my kids "Stupid is supposed to hurt"

 

[Snobdds]

I have always subscribed to...

Stupid should hurt.

It is a good check on society.

 

[cqaigy2]

I have actually been to China. It is very dirty. In the Cities. In the Countryside, not as much but still dirty. At least they could build a HSR system without politicians stealing 3/4 of the money.

China was dirty before their industrialization and it is dirty now. And it will be dirty a hundred years from now.

You wanna see a real pig sty? Go to Port au Prince. The dirt and filth just kinda hangs in the air.

Not a bit of industrialization to be found on that miserable island. Not a bit. Open sewers, no garbage collection so people burn their garbage every day all day, which makes for a wonderful aroma. The feral dogs appreciate it, too.

Same thing in India. They were dirty before industrialization and they're dirty today.

The EPA was a good idea as founded by Richard Milhouse Nixon but he was warned that he might as well set up a hiring booth outside of Woodstock. He wasn't around long enough to make a difference.

The EPA has become a rogue organization that exists to serve itself and NOT The People. Half the people that work there are former Eco-terrorists. 4cereal

It usually goes -- College numbskull/econut, to the Sierra Club, to the EPA.

We. the USA. rebuilt the World after WWII. The great industrial powers of the world had been bombed into rubble. They needed equipment, tools and tooling, machines, tractors, cars -- The whole enchilada.

We sold it to them. After we made it. And with a lot of profit on the top end.

We were in War-Time productions mode and it had to end. The EPA was the WORST possible solution to an easily fixed problem. Virtually everything they did, they did wrong.

I know. I lived through it. I watch as they destroyed millions, and I mean MILLIONS of lives with their over-regulation and their hammer-fisted shut-downs of entire industries and the destruction of the greatest industrial region (The Great Lakes Area) in human history.

The EPA will not get any sympathy from me when the time comes. They need to be DESTROYED.

totally

completely

without mercy

I don't understand your rationale. USA was dirty before EPA and now is much cleaner. I'd rather live where i can drink water, breath air, eat food and my grandkids can do the same. But i'm probably not going to toss the baby out with the bath water, so there is that.

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[Fuddyduddy1952]

I don't understand your rationale. USA was dirty before EPA and now is much cleaner. I'd rather live where i can drink water, breath air, eat food and my grandkids can do the same. But i'm probably not going to toss the baby out with the bath water, so there is that.

19 pcs Gas Can Spout Replacement Set, Gas Can Nozzle 5 Gal ，3 Bendable Tubes，3 Screw Collar Coarse Thread &3 Fine Thread-Fits Most of The Cans,3 Threaded caps ，6 Vent Caps 1 Drill Lid

I can't click on that...wish it would work.