Please tell me this is not the way oil filters are made...

[Joisey]

There are no doubt many bits of metal remaining inside those filters and I don't want them pumped into the system which could happen if they were prefilled. Some large Engine suppliers are specific about this.

What would the difference be if you prefilled the filter with clean oil, or the oil pump in the engine filled the filter? If the bits of metal are on the 'filtered' side of the filter, they're going in the engine.

 

[MossRoad]

What? This can't be so, can it? I recently saw a tractor filter made in India or maybe Pakistan.

It says car filters but a lot of guys shop for crossover deals for tractors and the cheapest price so who knows what you get?

 

[Gord Baker]

What would the difference be if you prefilled the filter with clean oil, or the oil pump in the engine filled the filter? If the bits of metal are on the 'filtered' side of the filter, they're going in the engine.

I suppose some would get into the main stream either way. Only about 15% of oil is filtered at a time.

 

[Alan46]

I suppose some would get into the main stream either way. Only about 15% of oil is filtered at a time.

Only 15%? Where did you see that? I would be very interested in that article!

 

[Gord Baker]

Only 15%? Where did you see that? I would be very interested in that article!

It is something I have known for decades. All the Oil does not pass thru the filter at once. In time it all does though. A plugged filter would starve the engine for oil if it was not a bypass system.

 

[M59]

What? This can't be so, can it? I recently saw a tractor filter made in India or maybe Pakistan.

It says car filters but a lot of guys shop for crossover deals for tractors and the cheapest price so who knows what you get?

Sixdogs,

Ahh piece meal labor. Not so long ago we had something similar in CT where tobacco leaves were threaded onto a long string for hanging up in the shed ( large barn ) for drieing. The threading was done by woman who used an open needle on a beefy "sewing" machine. My brother who oversaw crews of the woman would take a woman to the hospital to have a needle removed from the finger, sometimes the finger bone, at least once per week.

Your video doesn't include missing body parts in the work bins and everybody still appears to have all their fingers. Scary stuff.

Now answer me this. Why don't American working age adults want to work when clearly other populations are willing to work under these conditions??

 

[Williy]

The way the canister is sealed I don't believe
any oil will ever get past it! I don't believe I
have ever seen any epoxy on an oil filter. Also
the automated filter making is sealed the same
way! Epoxy is way too costly to use when they
have a machine to seal it! I would purchase one
of their filters before I would ever think of a fram.

willy

 

[Gord Baker]

Sixdogs,

Ahh piece meal labor. Not so long ago we had something similar in CT where tobacco leaves were threaded onto a long string for hanging up in the shed ( large barn ) for drieing. The threading was done by woman who used an open needle on a beefy "sewing" machine. My brother, who oversaw, crews of the woman would take a woman to the hospital to have a needle removed from the finger, sometimes the finger bone, at least once per week.

Your video doesn't include missing body parts in the work bins and everybody still appears to have all their fingers. Scary stuff.

Now answer me this. Why don't American working age adults want to work when clearly other populations are willing to work under these conditions??

That is a strange way of hanging tobacco. Burley Tobacco? Most times bunches are handed to the Tier who wraps cotton string around them and alternates to opposite sides of the slat which is then hung in the Kiln until force dried. 1,200 slats per kiln. NO needles.
Those Filters being silk screened indicated they were for Mazdas.

 

[M59]

That is a strange way of hanging tobacco. Burley Tobacco? Most times bunches are handed to the Tier who wraps cotton string around them and alternates to opposite sides of the slat which is then hung in the Kiln until force dried. 1,200 slats per kiln. NO needles.
Those Filters being silk screened indicated they were for Mazdas.

In the Farmington Valley of CT, they raised tobacco almost exclusively for cigar wrappers. Each leaf was kept separate to minimize damage. Don't know much more than that, other than as a young juvenile delinquent it was great fun to climb onto the net top and roll around like one great big trampoline.

 

[RandR10]

EDIT: In light of a response from user M59, I retract the following endorsement. The filter I bought, the Fram Drive FD9688, was indeed of good quality construction, but apparently they are not consistent with this and still use the paper end caps on some models. I'll leave the original post below for posterity, but wanted to give a heads up for anyone reading this that you may want to read further in the thread before deciding whether to buy Fram filters.

With all the trash talk about Fram I highly recommend cutting one open and looking inside. The old ones, I agree were junk. The ones you grab off the shelf today are high quality filters. There are a couple YouTube videos about this, so you don't have to even do it yourself.
I recently did an engine rebuild on my Kioti and sourced the wrong OEM filter online. Only one I could find locally was a Fram. I always do one or two heat cycles on a new engine and change the oil and filter. I cut the Fram open on the lathe and was surprised to see a well constructed filter. Went to the store and bought a second one and have been running them since.
One of the aforementioned videos: