Loader 1025r loader arms not working together

[Chrisbinnc]

Hi all! Been a couple of years since I posted on here. Hope y’all are doing well.

I’ve noticed on my 2018 1025r that when I switch attachments on my loader arms, one seems dead or dragging compared to the other one. It was slight at first but now it is making putting an attachment on a bit annoying.

Anyone else have this experience? Suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Chris


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[5030]

One side has air instead of fluid in the cylinder. Easy fix. Run the loader down and hold it in bypass and it will expel the trapped air.

 

[oldnslo]

Chris
Do you notice any difference in how one side lifts vs other? If one side is always lagging or lifting less I would suspect bad seals on that cylinder.

Air in a cylinder makes them bounce or spongy. Sometimes will also cause them them to have jerky movements vs smooth

 

[DK35vince]

Just sounds like a timing bar/tube on QA issue to me. (tube between you loaders QA plates bent or moving)

 

[dodge man]

I own a 2025r which is similar to yours. When I take the bucket off and put it it back on the hook up is usually a little out of whack. One side is usually a little more forward. I just drive up to the bucket or forks at a slight angle to make up for it.

 

[Xfaxman]

Hi all! Been a couple of years since I posted on here. Hope y’all are doing well.

I’ve noticed on my 2018 1025r that when I switch attachments on my loader arms, one seems dead or dragging compared to the other one. It was slight at first but now it is making putting an attachment on a bit annoying.

Anyone else have this experience? Suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Chris

Not clear on your problem. What John Deere attachment system do you have?

Is it this style?

 

[beenthere]

DK35vince hit the nail on the head, I think. The shear pin has broken and needs to be replaced.

 

[DK35vince]

DK35vince hit the nail on the head, I think. The shear pin has broken and needs to be replaced.

Exactly.
If the cross tube/timing bar has a shear pin that's the first thing I would check.

 

[Rustyiron]

I had the same issue with a JD 5400. Just a little bolt to fix.

 

[ovrszd]

I had the same issue with a JD 5400. Just a little bolt to fix.

First I've ever heard of that. Wonder, why did they use a shear pin in the torque tube? May be an excellent idea, just never heard of it before. I guess if you had a failure of some kind and it caused twist on the torque tube it would simply shear a pin rather than twist the tube??

 

[Rustyiron]

I think it's a pretty good idea.
Just an "incidental" little pipe only intended to time the 2 sides as your attachment will do the hard work. Iirc it's maybe a 3/8 bolt that shears and a very simple fix.
Our tractors (M9540 Kubota) with a more substantial 2"(+/-) welded pipe is a cut and weld job to fix. I twisted mine, it was my fault having only one side of a heavy 12' long "jib pole" attached. I was hooking it up and got it up to where I could see it at about hood height and rolled (dump) it back down to the ground much to fast and being only attached on one side.....
My solution was to cut it in the middle, disconnect one of the dump cylinders, roll that one out and slide a just right bigger pipe over it then roll it back in line and attach the tractor to a good heavy bucket as the alignment "tool". Slid the new pipe to the middle and welded it.
All this blabbering when I should have said "this little rod is only to keep alignment while moving about without an attachment". Imho of course.
Edit; I don't think it's actually a "torque tube" for loader functions, that's the big 4" tube between the loader arms.

 

[ovrszd]

I think it's a pretty good idea.
Just an "incidental" little pipe only intended to time the 2 sides as your attachment will do the hard work. Iirc it's maybe a 3/8 bolt that shears and a very simple fix.
Our tractors (M9540 Kubota) with a more substantial 2"(+/-) welded pipe is a cut and weld job to fix. I twisted mine, it was my fault having only one side of a heavy 12' long "jib pole" attached. I was hooking it up and got it up to where I could see it at about hood height and rolled (dump) it back down to the ground much to fast and being only attached on one side.....
My solution was to cut it in the middle, disconnect one of the dump cylinders, roll that one out and slide a just right bigger pipe over it then roll it back in line and attach the tractor to a good heavy bucket as the alignment "tool". Slid the new pipe to the middle and welded it.
All this blabbering when I should have said "this little rod is only to keep alignment while moving about without an attachment". Imho of course.

I agree. Good idea.

I've cut and welded mine twice. Next time I'm going to do the sleeve like you did and shear pin it!!!!

 

[DK35vince]

My loaders QA is heavy enough between the plates it never gets twisted in the first place vs a small bar or shear pin.

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[ovrszd]

My loaders QA is heavy enough between the plates it never gets twisted in the first place vs a small bar or shear pin.

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You've not experienced the appropriate or in appropriate situation yet.

 

[DK35vince]

You've not experienced the appropriate or in appropriate situation yet.

If that ever happens I will beef it up stronger, not the other way round

 

[ovrszd]

If that ever happens I will beef it up stronger, not the other way round

Eric and I have both experienced twisting the tube. Ours is easily twice the strength of yours.

I think the shear pin concept is better.

 

[DK35vince]

Eric and I have both experienced twisting the tube. Ours is easily twice the strength of yours.

I think the shear pin concept is better.

You likely have a higher lift capacity than I do also
22 years with this machine and I have never twisted it.

 

[ovrszd]

You likely have a higher lift capacity than I do also
22 years with this machine and I have never twisted it.

Lucky you.

 

[beenthere]

Likely this is the D120 FEL on the 1025R. The small pipe is only to keep the two brackets and tilt cylinders in time with each other, rather than one moving without the other making hooking onto the bucket difficult.
Here is the schematic of that timing bar key #4 showing the pins key #5 (mine is a single pin that is a 1/4" bolt that I put lock nut on to secure it). Is not the torsion tube up between the loader arms.

 

[Rustyiron]

If that ever happens I will beef it up stronger, not the other way round

I really think if it happens it's either an operator not noticing an unlatched side or improper "hooking" to the attachment. Vince you've been very attentive with your ssqa not boogering it up in 22 years.
The visibility on larger tractors of the ssqa is not that of the compacts. I've never had a problem with my Ss's hooking up (100% in your face visibility) or becoming unlatched and this is across a dozen + attachments.
(3 buckets, 2 forks, 2 - 102" snow plows, 84" grapple, 96" landplane, rotary mower, jib pole, Auger and a 60" mulcher)
Maybe it's just a numbers thing. The more you switch attachments the greater your chances of an "incident".