474HC Will it pull logs?

[fishbones]

Yep, still trying to decide. I really like the 494 but its just to big for my barn. I have a lot of grapple and log skidding work to do but cant find much information on how they pull logs so I am hoping someone has some insight.

 

[2manyrocks]

Depends on terrain and the weight of the logs. There are plenty of examples of members using tractors to pull logs within reason in the show me your woods thread, but tractors are not substitutes for bulldozers or timber skidders.

 

[fishbones]

show me your woods thread

I will check that thread out, thanks

 

[USMC43]

A team of horses will pull logs just fine if done right, no reason a 494 can’t if the terrain isn’t to severe and you use your head and they are not giant red wood trees.

What I call a grapple is more for large logging skidders and tractors. Takes up to much weight lifting capacity on a small tractor.

With horse and old drawbar only tractors they made a simple sled pulled with a chain to set the front of the log on.

Smaller tractors work well with a simple arched 3 point drawbar to chain the log to. If pulling greater distances and the train is fairly straight and suitable for wheels a wheeled arch is a nice addition to the back of the log to ease the pull.

Be careful going down hills however as the log of lifted on wheels will want to push you.

Also one dangerous thing some do is just use a bar between the lower arms. Without the top link if it catches a stump it can quick flip over a tractor backwards faster than one can react.

 

[2manyrocks]

I will check that thread out, thanks

I should have posted the link. Tractors and wood! Show your pics

If you intend to do a lot of work with logs, take a look at the 3pt logging winches.

 

[fishbones]

I should have posted the link. Tractors and wood! Show your pics

If you intend to do a lot of work with logs, take a look at the 3pt logging winches.

Thanks, I started going through it last night, thats a long thread :0) I just need to clean up 15 or so downed trees and a bunch of brush. I was thinking of building or buying a 3 point skidder. If this was going to be ongoing I would definately look at a winch.

 

[jeff9366]

TYM T474​

2019 -

Compact Utility tractor

Weight

3230 to 3605 pounds

TYM 474HC
Will it pull logs?


YES
Sufficient tractor weight is more important for most tractor applications than increased tractor horsepower. Bare tractor weight is a tractor specification easily found in sales brochures and web sites, readily comparable across tractor brands and tractor models, new and used.

Within subcompact and compact tractor categories, a significant tractor capability increase requires a bare tractor weight increase of 50%. It takes a 100% increase in bare tractor weight to elicit MY-OH-MY!

3-Point Hitch - Tractor Three Point Hitch CROSS-DRAWBARS

Unlike a tractor rear/center drawbar, Photo #8, which is attached directly to the tractor frame/chassis, a tractor cross-drawbar, Photo #1, mounts through the "bullseyes" integral to the left and right Lower Links of the Three Point Hitch. An inexpensive fitting, known as a drawbar lock, Photo...

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[fishbones]

TYM T474​

2019 -

Compact Utility tractor

Weight

3230 to 3605 pounds

TYM 474HC
Will it pull logs?


YES
Sufficient tractor weight is more important for most tractor applications than increased tractor horsepower. Bare tractor weight is a tractor specification easily found in sales brochures and web sites, readily comparable across tractor brands and tractor models, new and used.

Within subcompact and compact tractor categories, a significant tractor capability increase requires a bare tractor weight increase of 50%. It takes a 100% increase in bare tractor weight to elicit MY-OH-MY!

3-Point Hitch - Tractor Three Point Hitch CROSS-DRAWBARS

Unlike a tractor rear/center drawbar, Photo #8, which is attached directly to the tractor frame/chassis, a tractor cross-drawbar, Photo #1, mounts through the "bullseyes" integral to the left and right Lower Links of the Three Point Hitch. An inexpensive fitting, known as a drawbar lock, Photo...

www.tractorbynet.com

Thanks Jeff, good info.

 

[5030]

I pulled a lot of logs with my 41 Farmall A back in the day, no issue.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Yep, still trying to decide. I really like the 494 but its just to big for my barn. I have a lot of grapple and log skidding work to do but cant find much information on how they pull logs so I am hoping someone has some insight.

Too big, how? I got lucky and built the barn to accommodate the tractor, with cab, if needed

 

[fishbones]

Too big, how? I got lucky and built the barn to accommodate the tractor, with cab, if needed

Barn only has an 8ft door.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Oh, are you going cabbed? ROPS wouldn’t be an issue

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Unless these downed trees are absolute monsters, I don't think you'll have any issues at all pulling the logs out with a 474 sized chassis.

I think traction will be you're limiting factor here, not tractor chassis size.

I've pulled some pretty hard pulls with my 25 series, 4200 lb bare chassis, 7100 lbs all dressed up for the party. Keep it in 4wd and low range if you're pulling on monsters and worried about it. You can always cut the logs shorter if they're massive.

No where in this thread have you mentioned how big the actual logs will be. That is key information. How big? What species of tree? There are lumber weight charts that will give you a good estimate of how much actual weight you're dealing with.

 

[fishbones]

Unless these downed trees are absolute monsters, I don't think you'll have any issues at all pulling the logs out with a 474 sized chassis.

I think traction will be you're limiting factor here, not tractor chassis size.

I've pulled some pretty hard pulls with my 25 series, 4200 lb bare chassis, 7100 lbs all dressed up for the party. Keep it in 4wd and low range if you're pulling on monsters and worried about it. You can always cut the logs shorter if they're massive.

No where in this thread have you mentioned how big the actual logs will be. That is key information. How big? What species of tree? There are lumber weight charts that will give you a good estimate of how much actual weight you're dealing with.

Logs are 30-40 ft, white oaks, not green, 14-20" diameter. I am figuring I will have to cut them up. I would like the 494 but would have to cut the rop down in order to put a permanent sunshade on top. Thanks for the info.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Heck if you cut those in half, I'm thinking your current Kioti could drag those all over heck and back (one at a time, of course).

Certainly wouldn't be a problem with the 474 or similar sized chassis.

 

[TractorTYMe]

What's this "pulling logs" thing?

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Load the tires and it will pull like a mule I’m sure

 

[2manyrocks]

What's this "pulling logs" thing?

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That looks awesome.

 

[fishbones]

I am having a local guy fabricate a 3 point log skidder, I was thinking of having him mount a 2" hitch receiver on the top of it so I can put my 24x48 storage rack on top to store chainsaws and other gear when skidding. I am not sure if it will be in the way or not. Hoping someone who has done skidding could chime in.

 

[Digityman]

Barn only has an 8ft door.

This is the reason I went with a T474 vs a T494. The 474 fits in my garage with an 8' door with a few inches to spare. The 494, although my first choice, would not fit.

I pull logs out of the woods all the time.