Toro Workman 3200 project...anyone have one of these?

[sandman2234]

The KY Toro that is still in TN awaiting a trip by one or both of us, came with solid tires. They are extremely heavy, and puncture proof. The front tires weigh 110 pounds, and no telling what the rears tires weigh.
TN friend is working on the KY Toro, found a leak in the heater core, so it is off to a shop to see if it can be repaired. Texas Coils made the heater core, but we haven't found a part number for them to see if they can still make them or have any in stock. Kind of waiting on the repair shop before we bother Texas Coils anymore. The governor shaft has a lot of side to side play in it, and is being looked at to see what it will take to tighten up. The engine will currently go way past what it is supposed to turn in rpms. I prefer longevity over speed, so hope it can be fixed or maybe one of the spares we have can be used (if they are good).
Panik, I used to work for a trucking company that had a drop yard right at the back door of Busch Gardens... Scales Transport, and ran down there a lot. NW Ga is in my travel path occasionally since I am dedicated to a company out of Haleyville, AL and live in NE Florida.
Dfkrug, my TN buddy bought a cab only out of IL, with no doors. After purchase, while lining up transport, he asked about the doors, and the guys said, hmmm, they might be around here somewhere. Several days later, he said he had found them, and they got loaded on the trailer with the cab. That cab is waiting on time to put on another Toro.
A 4x4 has yet to be seen in person by either of us, so they are extremely rare!
David from jax

 

[dfkrug]

The governor shaft has a lot of side to side play in it, and is being looked at to see what it will take to tighten up. The engine will currently go way past what it is supposed to turn in rpms. I prefer longevity over speed, so hope it can be fixed or maybe one of the spares we have can be used (if they are good).

The governor is a very substantial feature, about the size of the alternator. I wonder if it is necessary or of any value. I don't have much experience with them. What would be the downside to eliminating it?

I just re-mated the tranny to the engine last night. Tip: leave the differential out while doing this. It makes the assembly much lighter and easier to guide into the clutch, plus you can turn the mainshaft by hand if the splines do not line up.

Bell housing is held on the engine by only 4 bolts!

 

[sandman2234]

The governor is a very substantial feature, about the size of the alternator. I wonder if it is necessary or of any value. I don't have much experience with them. What would be the downside to eliminating it?

I just re-mated the tranny to the engine last night. Tip: leave the differential out while doing this. It makes the assembly much lighter and easier to guide into the clutch, plus you can turn the mainshaft by hand if the splines do not line up.

Bell housing is held on the engine by only 4 bolts!

Apparently the 3 cylinder Mitsubishi isn't a high torque engine, lol, or those 4 bolts would be a much larger!
The governor, when operating correctly keeps the engine rpms down to about 3600, but in its current shape, it isn't doing much. The motor will turn in excess of 5k, which makes it pretty quick on its feet! That might explain why there were no brakes on it! My buddy unloaded it in his yard, which is all downhill since he lives on a hilltop. As it ame off the trailer, he hit the brakes, only to find none! He then grabbed the emergency brake handle, which also did nothing! Only a quick turn back uphill slowed the momentum!
David from jax

 

[dfkrug]

I adjusted the valve lash before reinstalling. Only one was off slightly, which probably made the slight tick I heard. Just 2 bolts hold the cover on, and no leaks!

This 3-cylinder engine of only 660cc seems well-made, with stout valve train components. No smoke I can see, even at nearly 5000 hours.

 

[dfkrug]

I dissected the hyd filter. Very sparkly in there, but apparently survivable. Maybe cuz the Barnes hyd pump is cast iron and not aluminum?

As of last night, the engine is back in. The most difficult part was not too bad: getting the half-shafts onto their couplers while lowering the engine/trans, without a helper.

 

[sandman2234]

Been busy, no Toro time!
Wondering how it ended up? Did the filter save the pump? Wondering how it well it shifts, does it have any abnormal sounds or noises?
David from jax

 

[dfkrug]

My Workman runs and drives. The manual shifter takes some finesse, but there is no gear grinding or noise.

I just go the dump bed back on. It is quite easy with the right tool: a boom pole that has a lift point more than 4 feet ahead of the FEL frame on my tractor. None of the four pivot pins have grease fittings, and they are only about 3/4" in diameter.

This machine is a hodge-podge collection of metric and inch fasteners. Kinda reminds me of an 80s Ford Ranger pickup I was given years ago. There was even one set of bolts that had star heads. I tossed them and replaced with hex bolts, which I had in stock.

 

[dfkrug]

I just got my tires in this week. Working on the mounting now. One of the rears is so worn, it looks like a racing slick. 6-ply with 1710# rating. $$$$

Beads hard to break, but I have my trusty bead-buster. Spec for rears is 24x12-12, but the slick one is 13" wide.

Seats on order...from India.

 

[sandman2234]

Seats are available on ebay for these. I think $240 was what my TN buddy paid to get a set delivered. I mentioned them to my Bride and She said She could cover them for me. Her family did auto upholstery for many years. Her aunt still owns the shop up the street, if needed.
My TN has solid tires on the rear, and the solid fronts came along with it, but they changed the fronts out to get more speed out of the Toro because the son was driving it 7 miles to work.
I am pretty sure I have enough good tires to last a while, depending on which ones I put into service and which ones become donors.
The cabbed industrial up in TN with the heater will be our winter Toro and the open station industrial will probably be our summer unit. The heater core is repaired and installed. Floorboards and pedals have been painted to slow the rust. Headlight behind the heater core was replaced while the heater core was out of the way.
The open station industrial does have the high-low tranny, so 6 speeds, and it does have a pto, which makes it interesting. The industrial with the cab only has 3 speeds, no hi-lo range and it is propane powered.
I am considering what I am going to run off the pto on the open station. I have a 10kw generator head that could be run off the pto, or with a little fabrication, I could make up a 3pt hookup to be able to pull a finish mower behind the Toro.
The cabs are made in Romania but with open station, I don't know why the mixup between metric and standard size.
David from jax

 

[dfkrug]

I tried to buy some aftermarket Toro seats on eBay, but they were not in stock. No OEMs there, other than some torn up used ones.

If I have to make the brackets anyway, I might as well get some decent new 2-piece units. Total cost, $142. I will report on them when I get them. This machine has no adjustments, up-and-back, for the seats.

Tho my unit has the high range, I am sure it will have to be used only on the flats. This is a small engine and a heavy machine. The golf course mine came from has a 4x4 with PTO, and they run a sprayer off the back. I want that one.