Compact sub compact?

[jjeff]

On a somewhat humorous side, if and when I find something, someone may see a 3/4 ton truck pulling a tandem 20' deck over hauling a tractor weighing less than a ton .

 

[WinterDeere]

 

[Too many Kubotas]

On a somewhat humorous side, if and when I find something, someone may see a 3/4 ton truck pulling a tandem 20' deck over hauling a tractor weighing less than a ton .

Humorous?

There should be a 3/4-ton (or better) in front of even an empty 20' trailer, I think.

 

[arrow]

That you mention the jobs you wish to do, I’d have the criteria of how easy it is drop and mount the mower deck. Most all drop the loader the same way but some mower decks are a real pain to deal with especially with a mid pto mount. Some take less than 3 minutes.
Look at You Tube examples of this of the brands you mention.
The brand is superfluous except that it meets your criteria the best.
Secondly, if it’s important to you, I’d want to consider capacity capabilities of loader and or 3 point.

 

[jjeff]

Humorous?

There should be a 3/4-ton (or better) in front of even an empty 20' trailer, I think.

Well than, Sure am glad I've got a half dozen 3/8" chain and binders

 

[arrow]

Humorous?

There should be a 3/4-ton (or better) in front of even an empty 20' trailer, I think.

Yeah it’s hysterical.
A 20’ 5 ton trailer weighs less than 2500 lbs.
What ppl fail to know that even if it states it’s a 5 ton capacity, it really should only hold 7000 lbs.
You wanna hold more than that then get a 7 ton.
An empty trailer such as this is no big deal to pull and stop.

 

[arrow]

Well than, Sure am glad I've got a half dozen 3/8" chain and binders

I certainly hope they used a 4 point tie down on that Tonka.

 

[jjeff]

That you mention the jobs you wish to do, I’d have the criteria of how easy it is drop and mount the mower deck.
The brand is superfluous except that it meets your criteria the best.
Secondly, if it’s important to you, I’d want to consider capacity capabilities of loader and or 3 point.

Mowing, moving snow ,maintaining a small driveway and making wood occasionally when I'm making wood I'll probably mostly use it for transport and push small limbs or slash I guess that's what experienced sawyers call it?
in the ravines. I somewhat graded the hillside and trenched the utilities in yrs ago when I was building and had my old L 2850 up there further graded and pushed in a few trails in a larger area when I had my 326 up there. Nothing beats a steel tracked skid steer for what I was doing imo btw.

 

[arrow]

Mowing, moving snow ,maintaining a small driveway and making wood occasionally when I'm making wood I'll probably mostly use it for transport and push small limbs or slash I guess that's what experienced sawyers call it?
in the ravines. I somewhat graded the hillside and trenched the utilities in yrs ago when I was building and had my old L 2850 up there further graded and pushed in a few trails in a larger area when I had my 326 up there. Nothing beats a steel tracked skid steer for what I was doing imo btw.

Another consideration since I sell the things. Be careful if you plan to bring a scut into the woods.
Their ground clearance is really not meant for woods work.
Customers have had several expensive fixes as a result even when told exactly what Im telling you.

 

[oldnslo]

I believe the Massey GC series are similar in size to Kubota BX and Deere 1 series but have no experience to verify that.

With MMM you have very limited ground clearance and without MMM may only have 5 or 6” clearance along with hydraulic filter and or cooling fans being vulnerable to sticks, stumps, etc.

 

[jjeff]

From experiences and repairs I had to perform under shady trees with my 2850 up there I kind of learned the harder way Kubotas are tough but not d9 tough. Lol. I won't be driving thru the woods with those things or even old skid trails for that matter.

 

[jjeff]

I'll look at Massey's gc line if I see one come up, pretty set on orange or green though mostly from experiences with older ones.

 

[jjeff]

Yeah it’s hysterical.
A 20’ 5 ton trailer weighs less than 2500 lbs.
What ppl fail to know that even if it states it’s a 5 ton capacity, it really should only hold 7000 lbs.
You wanna hold more than that then get a 7 ton.
An empty trailer such as this is no big deal to pull and stop.

Or 17k + trailer weight? According to the tags on it using a pintle hitch setup. I don't think some recognize the important value of a modern heavier duty diesel pickup trucks exhaust brake and the difference it actually makes to stop or going down steeper grades when your hauling heavy.

 

[arrow]

Or 17k + trailer weight? According to the tags on it using a pintle hitch setup. I don't think some recognize the important value of a modern heavier duty diesel pickup trucks exhaust brake and the difference it actually makes to stop or going down steeper grades when your hauling heavy.

I mostly have weights on the trailer averaging 8000 lbs.+ trailer. The 3/4 ton Chevy with the 6.1 does an excellent job in all aspects.
If I was indeed hauling 17,000 lbs, I’d have gone diesel even with the $10,000 premium for the engine.

 

[arrow]

I'll look at Massey's gc line if I see one come up, pretty set on orange or green though mostly from experiences with older ones.

If buying new, I’d go to my closest dealer saying the dealer is solid.
Brands are meaningless to me as I have seen good and bad in all brands.
To me, everyone builds a good tractor.
I think Kubota as the best but by small increment and in some instances, not worth the premium pricing.
If Kubota is your closest, get one of those if the dealership is solid.

Personally, I can’t stand their treadle system on their hydros but I’d probably get used to it if I had to get one.
I like separate pedals next to each other the best.

 

[jjeff]

I mostly have weights on the trailer averaging 8000 lbs.+ trailer. The 3/4 ton Chevy with the 6.1 does an excellent job in all aspects.
If I was indeed hauling 17,000 lbs, I’d have gone diesel even with the $10,000 premium for the engine.

Hauling 17k on my trailer with my truck is violating something, somewhere I believe even with a CDL. However I bought that trailer knowing I'd never need a bigger one.

 

[WinterDeere]

Another consideration since I sell the things. Be careful if you plan to bring a scut into the woods.
Their ground clearance is really not meant for woods work.
Customers have had several expensive fixes as a result even when told exactly what Im telling you.

That seems to be the case more and more, with CUT's. Even my 3-series, which sits reasonably high, has a huge fuel filter housing mounted ridiculously low and outside the frame rails. They hid it behind the front axle, which offers some degree of protection, but it sure would have been nice if they'd found a way to tuck it completely above something metal, and between the frame rails.

 

[jjeff]

One thing I have a question on is I found a couple used sub compacts with front snow blower and belly deck instead of a loader and mower, probably over thinking but I feel a used tractor without a little loader won't be beat as bad? my thinking also is, it's probably better to get one with a loader and mower if in the future I decide to get a snowblower it might be easier to get that than instead of vice versa. I'm I kinda correct? Also thinking a smaller qa snow plow or pusher mounted on loader arms seasonally in place of bucket is probably what I'll go with eventually. Also assuming I need third function to rotate blower shoot or angle a plow? Used to getting off and on ATVs to angle plow kind of have a method so I only have to change angle occasionally anyway but really grown accustomed to my ATV snowblower I occasionally use with electric chute rotation. Thanks

 

[Runner]

Also thinking a smaller qa snow plow or pusher mounted on loader arms seasonally in place of bucket is probably what I'll go with eventually. Also assuming I need third function to rotate blower shoot or angle a plow?

JD doesn't offer loader-mounted snow blades for the smaller CUT's (like 1 and 2 series) presumably because they don't think the loader structure is up to the stresses. You can get aftermarket (Curtis) loader-mounted snow blades that will work on them and some people on here have them. I have not heard of anyone having a problem with them, except that the smaller tractors aren't heavy enough to use them - they wind up being pushed sideways by the blade set way out front.

As for the blower chute and blade angle - with the JD frame-mount blade and blower, it uses one of the loader circuits for angle and the other to raise/lower, so you wouldn't need a third function.

I kicked myself in the rear for 20 years because I didn't get a snowblower with my lawn tractor and they quit making the model that fit it not long after I bought the tractor. However, that generally isn't the case with the blowers for the CUT's - JD tends to keep the same old models for blowers forever on them - although they did upgrade the CUT blower from 47" to 54" 10 minutes after I bought mine, so I wound up trading for the bigger one to cover my tracks....

My personal experience with the frame-mounted blade and blower is that they are a pain in the neck because you have to remove your loader to use them. Also, neither one works particularly good on gravel without some modifications like gauge wheels, etc. Consequently, I never use my frame-mounted snow blade and only rarely use the frame-mounted blower, but I have them because they are neat attachments to have.

If I really needed to use a blower, I would buy a rear blower for ease of attach/detach even though it would be harder to actually use, i.e., having to run the machine in reverse...

 

[dodge man]

You might keep your eye open for small JD 2 series tractor or B sized Kubota. You can put me in the camp of buying to small with my Kubota BX and ended up with a JD 2025r, but I did keep the BX 10 years. I think people over estimate the importance of the maneuverability of a scut vs a cut. The larger tire size of a small cut is a big step up.

A lot of this depends on your planned use. If you’re going to be working on your lawn tire size is less important.