1/2 ton pickup opinions???

   / 1/2 ton pickup opinions??? #91  
RayH said:
Im looking at an 07 tow rate chart right now. A superDuty F250 Van can tow 7300, A similarly equiped F250 SuperDuty pickup can tow 10100. Are you telling me that a Van weighs nearly a ton and a half (2800lbs) more than a pickup? Ive been studying this chart and we can go round and round about it. The numbers are not consistant with vehicles weight, brakes, length, or anything else that would influence how safely that vehicle can tow.

well maybe thats the problem your looking at a ford tow chart,lol
here is the gm chart
G2500 Cargo Van 2WD Short Wheelbase
Axle Ratio
Maximum Trailer Weight
GCWR*
4800 V8
3.73
4.10
6,300 lbs (2 858 kg)
7,300 lbs (3 311 kg)
12,000 lbs (5 443 kg) gcwr w/ 3:73
13,000 lbs (5 897 kg) gcwr w/4:10
6000 V8
3.73
4.10
8,300 lbs (3 765 kg) max trailer weight 3:73
10,000 lbs (4 536 kg) max trailer weight 4:10
14,000 lbs (6 350 kg) gcwr w/3:73
16,000 lbs (7 257 kg) gcwr w/4:10
6600 V8 Diesel
3.73
10,000 lbs (4 536 kg) max trailer weight
17,000 lbs (7 711 kg) gcwr
*The Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) is the total allowable weight of the completely loaded vehicle and trailer including any passengers, cargo equipment and conversion. The GCWR for your vehicle should not be exceeded.


notice the 6.0 version is only 500lbs less than a 6.0 version in a truck
the chart didnt cut and paste quite right but you get the point. notice how much the weight changes from one ratio to another, this comes into play with what you were talking about concerning manual transmissions. 95% of the customers that buy a 5 speed pickup dont buy them for towing reasons. with the moden transmissions that are out the difference in rpm's at highway speeds is maybe 200 rpms at the most. My wifes new denali has a 6 speed auto trans that you can shift up and down if you so desire.The denali gets better mpg than my 07 1/2 ton v-max with DOD, only thing i can figure is its the extra speeds in the trans.
 
   / 1/2 ton pickup opinions??? #92  
What's the problem with chevy/gmc?

I use my trucks commercially and switched from Ford to GMC this time around.

GM has the best powertrains in the business, period. Powertrains are the heart of every vehicle be it a car or a truck. The only exception might be a 5.9L Cummins, but you're buying a 1/2 ton, so you can't get one.

Ford & Dodge transmissions leave a lot to be desired. I've paid the repair bills so I can speak from experience.
 

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