10,000 GVWR

3Ts · Jun 24, 2019

The GVWR is how much the truck is designed to carry - that means all the people, fuel, stuff in the bed, and any tongue weight from a trailer (be it a tag along or a gooseneck). Also, the annual registration fees of a truck for personal use in many states is based on weight (not GWVR) but there is usually a relationship of higher GWVR and actual weight.

oosik · Jun 24, 2019

This entire subject was really brought home a week or so ago. A fellow pulling a trailer loaded with gravel was forced to make an emergency stop. His pickup, obviously, did not have ABS. All four truck tires locked up and left skid marks on the county asphalt road. An accident was avoided. I'll just bet he left skid marks in his underwear also. It appeared that the trailer had no brakes either - it pushed the pickup like a herd of wild, stampeding elephants.

Jstpssng · Jun 25, 2019

oosik said:
This entire subject was really brought home a week or so ago. A fellow pulling a trailer loaded with gravel was forced to make an emergency stop. His pickup, obviously, did not have ABS. All four truck tires locked up and left skid marks on the county asphalt road. An accident was avoided. I'll just bet he left skid marks in his underwear also. It appeared that the trailer had no brakes either - it pushed the pickup like a herd of wild, stampeding elephants.

I mentioned previously about a former coworker who hauled 3 yards on stone through town in a using his company half-ton with no trailer brakes.
The payload was 8100 lbs, plus the weight of the dump trailer. If somebody had pulled out in front of him I doubt that he could have stopped.

MoMower · Jun 25, 2019

Personally (and for side business) I haul with my 10k dump trailer. Has a almost 4 tons of payload, I do my best to stay at 3tons or under. Pulled with my 06’ K2500HD. Good brakes all around. I stay away from overloaded. Nothing good comes from it.

At work I stop a lot of pickups/PU trailer combos for overload, unsecured loads, etc. they get no quarter. If they are commercial, and really bad I’ll get the Motor Carrier guys out. Do t take me wrong, I don’t nit-pick them, but overloaded and unsecured will get them.

Jstpssng · Jun 25, 2019

MoMower said:
Personally (and for side business) I haul with my 10k dump trailer. Has a almost 4 tons of payload, I do my best to stay at 3tons or under. Pulled with my 06’ K2500HD. Good brakes all around. I stay away from overloaded. Nothing good comes from it.

At work I stop a lot of pickups/PU trailer combos for overload, unsecured loads, etc. they get no quarter. If they are commercial, and really bad I’ll get the Motor Carrier guys out. Do t take me wrong, I don’t nit-pick them, but overloaded and unsecured will get them.

I'm not sure what you do for a living and no doubt will get some hate comments directed my way; but kudos to you if they are grossly overweight or things are apt to fall off. Even truckers get POed when one of their own runs grossly overweight.

Some of the scariest loads though are on a "'scrapper's" truck on the way to the junk yard. Not all of them fall in that category but a good percentage do.

aczlan · Jun 25, 2019

Jstpssng said:
I'm not sure what you do for a living and no doubt will get some hate comments directed my way; but kudos to you if they are grossly overweight or things are apt to fall off. Even truckers get POed when one of their own runs grossly overweight.

Hear he, hear he.

Jstpssng said:
Some of the scariest loads though are on a "'scrapper's" truck on the way to the junk yard. Not all of them fall in that category but a good percentage do.

Especially when it looks like the whole truck should be staying in the scrap yard...

Aaron Z

MoMower · Jun 25, 2019

Jstpssng said:
I'm not sure what you do for a living and no doubt will get some hate comments directed my way; but kudos to you if they are grossly overweight or things are apt to fall off. Even truckers get POed when one of their own runs grossly overweight.

Some of the scariest loads though are on a "'scrapper's" truck on the way to the junk yard. Not all of them fall in that category but a good percentage do.

Local po-po, this time of year the landscapers are the worst. With the scrappers coming in a close second. Been around long enough to see more than a few fatals caused by overloaded/unsecured.

Just a few weeks ago had two rolls of about 20 tons of rolled metal come off a flatbed, middle of the afternoon, weekday, 4 lane highway....no idea how no one was hurt.