15% ethanol!?!?

   / 15% ethanol!?!? #101  
My Gosh...I wasn't expecting such a variety of responses!!:laughing:

Prolly due to a BAC above the legal limit or simply -> "too much ethanol" :D
 
   / 15% ethanol!?!? #103  
I guess I am lucky with two stations selling non-ethanol gas currently in my small town. I am seeing it more and more as I travel. Many are using it for the mowers/trimmers, etc as it does not mess up the carb as bad. I am a believer this year as everything I had use it in last year started right up. I do drain everything and run dry for over winter The one trimmer I did not use it in had to go in for carb work.
 
   / 15% ethanol!?!? #104  
"In 2008, the U.S. government spent $4 billion on biofuels subsidies, replacing about 2 percent of the U.S. gasoline supply, according to the Baker Institute report, "Fundamentals of a Sustainable U.S. Biofuels Policy." The average cost to the taxpayer was about $82 a barrel, or $1.95 a gallon."

Either the WSJ or Progressive Farmer had an article a while back about farmers pulling marginal land from conservation programs to grow corn to make Ethanol. The price of corn was so high because of Ethanol demand that even poor land was useful for farming again. Flip side was that this land had been put aside to improve water and wildlife habitat.

Later,
Dan

Well, you can sure tell that article is so outdated it might as well have been written in Cuneiform on Summerian stone tablets! Ethanol subsidies were eliminated in 2011. And the price of corn for the last few years has mirrored the pricing during the Clinton Administration, actually lower on an inflation adjusted basis.
 
   / 15% ethanol!?!? #105  
I had just got my Sthil 029 Farmboss back from the dealer. They said the reason I could not get it to run was because the fuel pickup was full of "gelled ethanol type gunk". He said the good ol' government was trying to raise the ethanol content to 15%. He has seen this type of increase of the gell around the pickups in the last 8 months and he sees no end in sight.
If the government increases the ethanol content, what is this going to do to cars and trucks, lawn equipment that are not ethanol rated?? I hope there is an additive someone will come out with to help deal with this atrocity.
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   / 15% ethanol!?!? #106  
Nothing goes into any of my outdoor small engines but premium with no ethanol in it. We are fortunate to have several stations where it is available here.
 
   / 15% ethanol!?!? #107  
Nothing goes into any of my outdoor small engines but premium with no ethanol in it. We are fortunate to have several stations where it is available here.

The local distributor of non-ethanol gas in my area charges $4 and up per gallon no matter what the price of oil is. Unfortunately, he has a monopoly on the market. I am weaning myself from gasoline powered equipment.
 
   / 15% ethanol!?!? #108  
I burn no ethanol in my equipment. I only know of one place locally that carries ethanol free gas. I paid 2.54 for it last week. Most of my equipment is diesel, but my gas ZTR is pretty thirsty. Even at $4 per gallon I'd still burn it in my two stroke engines. I'd be forced to run ethanol gas in the ZTR because I use it about 200 hours a year.
 
   / 15% ethanol!?!? #109  
Not just small engines... Motorcycles and snowmobiles too. None will run on 15% weasel pee, nit for long at least. Thanks Obama.
 
   / 15% ethanol!?!? #110  
True, the EPA is wanting to up 15% availability, but also true, a pump that has 15% must be clearly labeled that it is such, and only should be used in certain autos, so that will mean that 10% or less must still be available for those engine that can't use 15%. if one puts 15% into their small engine tank, it was because they weren't paying attention. No one but themselves to blame. It does make sense to use ethanol free in something like 2 strokes. I have not found any problem in several decades with 10% in any of the small 4 stroke stuff I have put it in.
 

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