1961 Ford 4030 - Clutch Problem?
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strum456
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I dont think a step up/down would have the extra linkage. Mine doesnt.
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yep.. and I knew it would be a 4spd one we startedtalking aux trans...
starting to make sense now..
starting to make sense now..
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This morning I confirmed that it is a reverser. It was engaged, but in reverse. When I switched it, the PTO turned clockwise as expected, and the tractor lurched forward a tiny bit, instead of backwards as before. With the tires on the ground, the PTO works when the clutch is engaged - in both directions.
Will the PTO clutch engage even if the main clutch is slipping?
Not to get off topic, but my tractor has a 730 Loader. I assume I will have to remove that to split the tractor?
Will the PTO clutch engage even if the main clutch is slipping?
Not to get off topic, but my tractor has a 730 Loader. I assume I will have to remove that to split the tractor?
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if it won't drive(move) but pto spins, then the front of the tranny is getting power .. and at least thru to the counter shaft probably...
I'd next suspect a broken pinion coupler tube, pinion gear, or sheared rivitrs in teh ring gear, or a broken axle.
pretty much in that order.
soundguy
I'd next suspect a broken pinion coupler tube, pinion gear, or sheared rivitrs in teh ring gear, or a broken axle.
pretty much in that order.
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CedarHillFarm
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Doesn't the fact that when I jacked up the rear end and spun a tire, the other tire spun the opposite way, rule out an axle problem?
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Also, when I had it jacked up, the tranny went through the gears with no problems, and the wheels turned.
With a double clutch, can one disc be toast while the other is ok? Would that account for the PTO working properly?
I really appreciate all this great advice. I've learned to ask the experienced folks before taking things apart.
With a double clutch, can one disc be toast while the other is ok? Would that account for the PTO working properly?
I really appreciate all this great advice. I've learned to ask the experienced folks before taking things apart.
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you have a 4spd trans and a pre tranny.. you cannot have a dual clutch.
the reason it may work jacked up is because there is no load. a broke axle can grab at the break site and still turn under no load.
if pto works and wheels won't move.. input is getting power...
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If I have a broken axle, shouldn't I be able to hear the differential turning? I hear nothing wrong when I engage the clutch, and the wheels move just a tiny bit. Also, is my differential similar to an automotive one? Are there two half-shafts? Wouldn't one turn even if the other was broken?
I received my shop manual yesterday, so I'm ready to get to work. Thanks again for all the help.
I received my shop manual yesterday, so I'm ready to get to work. Thanks again for all the help.