$200 Pocket Pistol

[genusCastor]

A pocket pistol thread and no mention of KelTec?

I have a PF-9 that is easy to carry. Looks like a toy until you pull the trigger. :laughing:

I agree with edlegault:

ANY firearm can jam, whether failure to feed or failure to eject. (1) Get TRAINING to know how to clear a jam. (2) Try different ammo to find what shoots best in your firearm with YOU using it. (3) Many times FTF or FTE are caused by poor hand grip techniques, and not the fault of the firearm.

Have fun shopping.

- djb

 

[sdkubota]

Kahr CF9 and PF9 are also excellent, dependable, carry weapons. Personally, I carry a Kimber Solo that I waited 8+ months to get. My search for the perfect personal carry pistol ended once it arrived.

 

[Terryfied]

My wife has the S&W Bodyguard 380 with the integrated laser. Nice little piece and has performed flawless at the range. Look on Armslist too, sometimes there's great deals on used iron. I currently carry the S&W Bodyguard 38 special. Very light and also has integrated laser. I'm saving up for the Kimber Ultra RCP2. Sweet gun and imo the ultimate compact carry. Nothing beats a .45!

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Looked online at several reviews and I will not be putting my money down for this little pistol. I know that the Ruger LCP had problems and a recall at first but the Taurus reviews are awful. Failure to feed and failure to eject with anything exceft round nose ammo. Thanks for the information. Looks like I will be getting an LCP to go along side my 10/22 and Mk. II pistol.

RSKY

I went to a local gun store to look at a Taurus .22 mag revolver, with full intentions of buying one. The one I was given to examine wouldn't function. I couldn't cock it nor would it function by pulling the trigger; the mechanism was frozen. That convinced me that a Taurus was not the quality I was looking for.

 

[GPintheMitten]

The Kahr CW9 is a good small gun. It has a little more grip than the Kahr PF9.

 

[k0ua]

take down a 300 savage and then you've done something ( mod 99 )

I have never had the pleasure . That is one reason I like Military style weapons.. anything made for the military is usually pretty easy to take down and put back together. Although I am sure there are some negative examples of that.

James K0UA

 

[Ken45101]

it's all about shot placement.

CNS disconnect will do it every time. plenty of power in a stock 380 to do massive CNS damage..
...

2 shots and you could guarantee massive CNS trauma ...

NO HANDGUN is guaranteed to stop. Yes, a CNS hit is very effective and extremely difficult. Just hitting the bad guy is hard enough, most shots miss entirely. Expecting to get a CNS shot is close to winning the lottery.

I suggest anyone interested read the FBI Quantico Report on Handgun Wounding Factors available here:
The Gun Zone -- FBI Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness

Here are a few quotes from that article. I strongly suggest anyone interested should read the entire report.

Few, if any, shooting incidents will present the officer with an opportunity to take a careful, precisely aimed shot at the subject's head. Rather, shootings are characterized by their sudden, unexpected occurrence; by rapid and unpredictable movement of both officer and adversary; by limited and partial target opportunities; by poor light and unforeseen obstacles; and by the life or death stress of sudden, close, personal violence. Training is quite properly oriented towards "center of mass" shooting. That is to say, the officer is trained to shoot at the center of whatever is presented for a target. Proper shot placement is a hit in the center of that part of the adversary which is presented, regardless of anatomy or angle.

A review of law enforcement shootings clearly suggests that regardless of the number of rounds fired in a shooting, most of the time only one or two solid torso hits on the adversary can be expected. This expectation is realistic because of the nature of shooting incidents and the extreme difficulty of shooting a handgun with precision under such dire conditions. The probability of multiple hits with a handgun is not high.

With the exceptions of hits to the brain or upper spinal cord, the concept of reliable and reproducible immediate incapacitation of the human target by gunshot wounds to the torso is a myth.

Physiologically, a determined adversary can be stopped reliably and immediately only by a shot that disrupts the brain or upper spinal cord. Failing a hit to the central nervous system, massive bleeding from holes in the heart or major blood vessels of the torso causing circulatory collapse is the only other way to force incapacitation upon an adversary, and this takes time. For example, there is sufficient oxygen within the brain to support full, voluntary action for 10-15 seconds after the heart has been destroyed

 

[genusCastor]

Wow. This thread got gutted. :laughing:

- djb

 

[RSKY]

Wow. This thread got gutted. :laughing:

- djb

Yeah, sometimes it's fascinating just to sit back and see where it goes. Of course making a few 'appropriate' comments at the right time helps.

 

[RSKY]

And just wait until I put my Best Home Defense Ammo thread out there!