2009 F-150 what do you think?

   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #31  
Highridge: Mahindra says that they will have a 1 ton, 4 cylinder diesel out this fall. Will be priced in the low 20's.
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #32  
CumminsLuke said:
I think it is a regional thing? Around these parts Dodge is king of the work trucks.

Interesting. Dodge's are by far the lowest seller in my area, rare as hen's teeth on the jobsite. I live in one of the biggest population centers in the US.

I don't think they make any of a lesser truck, though. Love to have a 5500 4x4 dump with a 6.7/Aisin/exhaust brake. ;)
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #33  
Builder said:
Interesting. Dodge's are by far the lowest seller in my area, rare as hen's teeth on the jobsite. I live in one of the biggest population centers in the US.

I don't think they make any of a lesser truck, though. Love to have a 5500 4x4 dump with a 6.7/Aisin/exhaust brake. ;)

Ya, I think it is a regional thing, and a lot of it has to do with the dealer also. I'm not trying to brag, but we do a pretty good job selling and servicing new Dodges, and we know them forwards and backwards top to bottom, especially cab & chassis, where a lot of dealers don't have any knowledge of work trucks what so ever. But we actually use these trucks ourselves, for transporting vehicles on our 48' stepdeck for our dealerships, and on our farm hauling tractors, equipment, round and square bales, stock trailers and all kinds of stuff. I think that is part of why we do so well with Dodge heavy trucks. People come to us because they know they are talking to guys who actually use these trucks for what they were actually designed for and beyond. I think that carries a lot of weight when it comes to selling?
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #34  
Where I live you see a lot of Fords, Dodge next, then Chevy/GM in the 3/4 and 1 ton segments. In the half ton market, it seems to be pretty evenly distributed. I give Ford the edge on total sales because of more, larger dealerships. Chevy, overall, probably is second, with Dodge a close 3rd despite having much fewer and much smaller dealerships. The Dodge dealers seem to be more service oriented than the rest. I have a Ford car and a Dodge truck, and and take both to the dealerships for service. The Ford dealership takes anywhere from 1 1/2 hours to 4 1/2 hours for simple service (oil change, wheel alignment), the Dodge dealership in 2 services so far has been about 45 min. I always make service appointments about a week in advance, on the 4 1/2 hour day at Ford I was told that the appointment was just for scheduling drop off, not a guarantee that the vehicle would be serviced at that time.
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #35  
dgl24087 said:
Where I live you see a lot of Fords, Dodge next, then Chevy/GM in the 3/4 and 1 ton segments. In the half ton market, it seems to be pretty evenly distributed. I give Ford the edge on total sales because of more, larger dealerships. Chevy, overall, probably is second, with Dodge a close 3rd despite having much fewer and much smaller dealerships. The Dodge dealers seem to be more service oriented than the rest. I have a Ford car and a Dodge truck, and and take both to the dealerships for service. The Ford dealership takes anywhere from 1 1/2 hours to 4 1/2 hours for simple service (oil change, wheel alignment), the Dodge dealership in 2 services so far has been about 45 min. I always make service appointments about a week in advance, on the 4 1/2 hour day at Ford I was told that the appointment was just for scheduling drop off, not a guarantee that the vehicle would be serviced at that time.

These are the sales numbers for all of the trucks in 2007

Ford F-Series: 690,589
Chevy Silverado: 618,257
Dodge Ram: 358,295
GMC Sierra: 208,243
Toyota Tundra: 196,555
Nissan Titan: 65,746

2007: The year in truck sales - Autoblog
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think?
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#36  
Around here Ford Superdutys are deffinately the choice of contractors. Most of the Highway Dept trucks are either Fords of GMs. I have been notcing more Dodges of late though.
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #38  
Diamondpilot said:
Are you the original owner? I got word that the COPS have a extended warranty through Ford at no cost to the owner. I personally have never had a problem and have owned a 2001, 2003, another 2003, and a 2007. My brother in law had one go and he said it was a 5 minute fix. He needed it fixed asap so he went on his lunch break to Auto Zone, did not want to wait at the dealers. The guy there told him which one it probably was and was right. I cant remember what cylinder but it was closest to the exhaust. His was a 2001 5.4 and he said the part was cheap. All in all its a good system. Lots of redundancy.

Chris

Checked with my Ford dealer. The 36-month warranty is extended to 72 months on the COPS parts. No charge for that extension. But it only applies to late model F150s. It doesn't apply to my 2001.

The COPS module costs about $65 at an auto parts store. Dealer markup brings it to about $95. Labor is about $100. It's a simple fix once you know which of the 8 COPS modules is bad. Need to be able to readout the vehicle trouble codes for that.
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #39  
Around here the market is about 60% Ford, 30% GM, and 10% Dodge. It seems like all the guys who work for a living with the trucks like the Ford. Many who pull 5th wheel trailers like the GM. The guys who love big wheels, loud pipes(stacks), and black smoke rolling love the Dodges.

As said by CumminsLuke said and Builder said it has a lot to do with the dealer. Also GM has closed plants around here along with Dodge and many will not buy for those reasons.

Chris
 
   / 2009 F-150 what do you think? #40  
Robert_in_NY said:
I do not understand what Dodge is trying to do with those fender tool boxes. If you buy the truck with them you loose a lot of box volume and you can not use a crossover tool box. It appears the only use is for the weekend warrior who uses a truck for a daily driver to and from work. If they could have worked the storage a little different it would have accomplished the same thing without as big a sacrifice for the construction and farm market. I would love to have a spot like that on my truck that would be used for tie downs, tow straps, clevis, drawbar, hitch pins and other truck essentials that you don't use on a regular basis. This way you always have them but you don't need what appears to be a 12" wide box rail. Why would you need to carry a basket ball in the fender storage? Tackle box? These bulky items will fit in the box of the truck just fine (I know, I have tried it). It is a nice idea but in my mind very poor execution as they gave up too much to get so little.

But it will sell well as not too many contractors and farmers buy Dodges. They mostly buy Fords and GM's. Dodge could have sold a lot more if they thought it thru.
In looking at online pictures of the 09 Ram vs. my 07, it appears that the heavily sculpted sides of the box have been smoothed out, thus widening the area at the top of the box, allowing for these bins without impacting the interior volume of the cargo box. Won't really be able to tell for certain until they hit the lots and can be compared side by side.
 

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