2009 F-150 what do you think?

[Robert_in_NY]

In looking at online pictures of the 09 Ram vs. my 07, it appears that the heavily sculpted sides of the box have been smoothed out, thus widening the area at the top of the box, allowing for these bins without impacting the interior volume of the cargo box. Won't really be able to tell for certain until they hit the lots and can be compared side by side.

There are no wheel wells in the box. Dodge used the Wheel well depth for this storage area. The box now looks like the interior volume of the flare side boxes, it is just a cube.

 

[dgl24087]

Ah, that's the first view I've seen of the interior of the box.

 

[chh]

Around here Dodge and Ford fight pretty heavy for the C/C segement. Flatbeds and bale beds for the ranchers which goes heavily to Dodge. The Ford dealer is big into commercial sales so he is catching most of the gas/oilfield companies. Chevy is running in third, because everyone says the Duramax diesel isn't as good towing.(Thats just the rep! Don't throw sticks at me Chevy guys) Plus the local Chevy dealer stinks. Most Chevy's come from dealerships out of town.

 

[CumminsLuke]

Around here Dodge and Ford fight pretty heavy for the C/C segment. Flatbeds and bale beds for the ranchers which goes heavily to Dodge.

Finally some one who backs up my point. You get west of the Mississippi, and it's amazing how different things are then on the east coast.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Finally some one who backs up my point. You get west of the Mississippi, and it's amazing how different things are then on the east coast.

Sales numbers show Ford and GM both outsell Dodge trucks almost 2-1 nationally. No one is saying that a few areas don't have good Dodge dealers and those dealers outsell the Ford and GM dealers in those areas but the numbers were posted and unless you have knowledge showing the numbers I posted are false then please post the accurate numbers showing where Dodge is outselling Ford and GM in truck sales. If not what are you trying to accomplish with your post?

 

[CumminsLuke]

Hey man take it easy. What I am trying to say is, though GM and Ford sell more trucks than Dodge nationally, that is not the case in every market. Like I said, my Dodge store outsells the local Ford store 2 to 1 in heavy trucks, and my Dodge store outsells my GM store nearly 15 to 1 in the 2500/3500 truck segment. I know this is not the case everywhere in the country, I never said it was. But, in the midwest Dodge does a pretty darn good heavy truck business.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Hey man take it easy. What I am trying to say is, though GM and Ford sell more trucks than Dodge nationally, that is not the case in every market. Like I said, my Dodge store outsells the local Ford store 2 to 1 in heavy trucks, and my Dodge store outsells my GM store nearly 15 to 1 in the 2500/3500 truck segment. I know this is not the case everywhere in the country, I never said it was. But, in the midwest Dodge does a pretty darn good heavy truck business.

I originally agreed with you about this. Then when chh comes on and mentions his area you come back with your post making it seem like anything west of the Mississippi is Dodge country. Yes, there are areas where Dodge is the lead truck seller but nationally they trail Ford and GM considerably. There is no denying that regardless of what side of the Mississippi you are on

 

[Builder]

Hey man take it easy. What I am trying to say is, though GM and Ford sell more trucks than Dodge nationally, that is not the case in every market. Like I said, my Dodge store outsells the local Ford store 2 to 1 in heavy trucks, and my Dodge store outsells my GM store nearly 15 to 1 in the 2500/3500 truck segment. I know this is not the case everywhere in the country, I never said it was. But, in the midwest Dodge does a pretty darn good heavy truck business.

Could also be the way your individual dealership conducts its business or is viewed in your community. Maybe people in your area view you as "Dodge" dealership, despite selling other brands and go to other dealers when they want GMC or Ford.

Nationally, GMC alone practically isn't too far off Dodge's sales numbers. Combine GMC & Chevy together and they come close to the sales numbers of Dodge & Ford together, yet they roll off the same assembly line.

 

[chh]

Calendar Year Sales Of Big Pickups

2007
2006

Chevy Silverado
618,257
636,069

GMC Sierra
208,243
210,736

GM Total
826,500
846,805

Ford F Series
690,589
796,039

Lincoln LT
8,382
12,753

Ford Total
698,971
808,792

Dodge Ram
358,295
364,177

Toyota Tundra
196,555
124,508

Nissan Titan
65,746
72,192

Total
2,146,047
2,216,474



Source: Automotive News

The above figures are for pure pickups and do not include the SUV/pickup variants such as the Chevy Avalanche.


Didn't come out like the article I clipped it from. Full size trucks only. Haven't found a breakdown for 1/2. 3/4, and 1 tons yet.

 

[chh]

Top 10 Pickups Sales Figures
Year-to-Date (YTD) Dec 2007

Ford F-Series
690,589 -13.2% YTD
Dec 2007: 55,069
Dec 2006: 70,580

Chevrolet Silverado
618,257 -2.7% YTD
Dec 2007: 53,560
Dec 2006: 52,396

Dodge Ram
358,295 -2.0% YTD
Dec 2007: 32,118
Dec 2006: 32,875

GMC Sierra
208,243 -1.2% YTD
Dec 2007: 19,782
Dec 2006: 17,541

Toyota Tundra
196,555 +57.4% YTD
Dec 2007: 19,219
Dec 2006: 12,468

Toyota Tacoma
173,238 -3.2% YTD
Dec 2007: 13,289
Dec 2006: 15,857

Chevrolet Colorado
75,716 -19.3% YTD
Dec 2007: 5,410
Dec 2006: 7,858

Ford Ranger
72,711 -21.3% YTD
Dec 2007: 5,564
Dec 2006: 8,349

Nissan Titan
65,746 -9.2% YTD
Dec 2007: 4,785
Dec 2006: 5,575

Nissan Frontier
64,397 -17.2% YTD
Dec 2007: 4,708
Dec 2006: 5,728


Another breakdown, Ford does not report sales by model(F150, F250 ect) so I didn't find an article saying who was gaining where. Tundra was the only truck though that posted a sales gain last year in the US.