4020 Series Specs

   / 4020 Series Specs #11  
Hi Mike - Don't you think that's a problem with any front headlight placement? I've read about the new NH front end light placement being better. But the fact is no matter where they are on the front end the loader/bucket will block them at some point in its range of motion. I've used my lights for some evening work, and I found sometimes they're fine, other times they're blocked. I think if I did a lot of evening work I'd have to mount lights on the ROPS - which I've avoided doing for now.
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #12  
I don't believe the NH lights are much better... Once the loader is on, they are blocked, too. I think ROPS lights are the way to go, but this has me thinking about some on the loader arms, above the bucket...
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #13  
Rops lights, what happens when you raise the bucket? Your bucket will block your view or if you raise it high enough to see under it your bucket will block the lights on the rops. With a loader there is no perfect place for lights. Ideally you would have lights on the tractor, loader, fenders and rops. Of course the loader, fender and rops lights would have to be enclosed in a heavy wire mesh for protection. The older tractors use to have lights in the fenders but they were good for lighting up the sides of the tractor but still had flaws. 4 sets of lights is the only way to go. The construction industry has it right as they have lights everywhere on dozers, excavators and other large machines. Maybe the ag bosses don't figure compacts get used much at night to make it worth while to add more lights. The larger ag tractors have special lighting packages that address this problem with cab mounted lights that could light a football field as well as the hood mounted lights.
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #14  
Dealer called me today and said the 4720 looks like it will only be available as a hydro. If that's true it looks like the 4600 will have to go another couple thousand hours because I'm not buying a hydro. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #15  
At 45.5 PTO Hp the 4520 wouldn't be a slouch....
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #16  
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PTO Horsepower (hydro) 35/40/45/50
PTO Horsepower (reverser) 35.5/40.5/45.5/na
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Interestingly there is only .5Hp additional loss with the Hydro vs. the reverser... I know that isn't the only reason for you not going hst, but a 50 Hp 4720 still looks better than a 45.5 Hp 4520 (PTO Hp...) Course pricing may be another issue, there might be a disproportionate charge for the 4720 over the 4520...
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #17  
What is the engine hp on each though? I would be curious if JD is upping the hp on the hydros to make the buyers think there is no power loss due to the hydro. If that is true then that is not fair to people like cowboydoc and myself who just prefer gear tractors. The main reason I like a geared tractor is I am confident that if something breaks inside it I could fix it with the simple tools I have. If the hydro breaks I would have to go to school to figure out how to fix it.
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #18  
<font color="blue"> Rops lights, what happens when you raise the bucket? Your bucket will block your view or if you raise it high enough to see under it your bucket will block the lights on the rops. </font>

When the bucket is high enough to block the ROPS mounted lights then the lights on the front of the tractor come into play.
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #19  
<font color="blue"> Dealer called me today and said the 4720 looks like it will only be available as a hydro </font>

I wonder why Deere would put a hydro only in the 4720 ?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Deere must think that the hydro is the best choice of transmissions ?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / 4020 Series Specs #20  
The way I interpreted rocky's post was that rops lights would be the standard as the hood lights would no longer be there as the loader blocked them. Either way, the only way to have enough light is to add lights to the loader arms.
 

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