4300 needs weight

rekees · Feb 28, 2001

Rick

>>I don't understand why the equipment manufacturers can't produce a table or chart estimating additional rear weight required<<
I can't speak for all equipment manufacturers but the owners manual that came with my JD430 FEL specifies exactly how much rear weight is required. I assume generic, aftermarket FEL manufacturers can't do that because they don't know what brand/model tractor their FELs are going to be mounted on?

Chuck in IN

Blu21 · Feb 28, 2001

My N.H. loader manual gives all the counterbalance info I need for the specific application. I tend to agree w/Chuck about the aftermarket ones,maybe someone else could shed some light on aftermarket loaders and manual info.Tom

DDT · Feb 28, 2001

Well I have a GB Loader and the manual said refer to the tractors owners manual for proper rear ballast, I can't find that inhfo in the 4300 manual, unless I've over looked it.
I sould need the same weight that a 430 loader would need. The GB is alittle heaver and will pick up 1450 LBS at full height, just alittle more than the 430 JD loader.

rekees · Feb 28, 2001

DDT

The info isn't in the 4300 manual it's in the 430 FEL manual #OMW44980 F8 PAGE 10-10. It says to use liquid ballast in rear tires plus 1320 lbs on 3ph.

It also says the following in bold font:
CAUTION: To help prevent the possibility of
personal injury or death caused by
tractor/loader roll over, DO NOT operate
tractor/loader unless it is equipped with proper
ballast.

Chuck in IN

DDT · Mar 1, 2001

rekees,
Thanks for the weight on the rear, about how much weight is in the tires, I'll bet I can call my goodyear tire man tell him the size of the tire and how full the manual said it to be and he can give me a exact weight per side. I all ways use rear equipment for weight. I just as soon add enough weight to the box blade one time and be done, instead of trial and eror.
I want to build a concrete 3 point ballaslt but it's got to be big enough to be heavy enough.
Thanks DDT

rekees · Mar 1, 2001

DDT

>>about how much weight is in the tires<<
Sorry, but the 430 manual doesn't say or imply how much weight is in the tires. Best bet would be to call the Goodyear man for an estimate.

Somebody posted a pic here at TBN of a homemade concrete ballast 3ph. I've also seen estimates of how much concrete it would take to achieve a given weight. You might wanna do a search and see if you can find those posts. Think the 3ph on a 4300 will lift a ton so that shouldn't be a limitation. Good luck with your FEL and ballast.

Chuck in IN

Chris in IN · Mar 1, 2001

Check the link below. It is for pictures of my JD 4400 with rear weights & rear weight bracket. The original post is under Other John Deere, Rear Weight Bracket.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1484649&a=11186819

DDT · Mar 1, 2001

Well I called my tire man. He didn't have the tire size in his book so he is guessing at 350LBS to 370LBS each tire at 75% full (valve stem). I will figure 700LBS + 1320LBS =2020LBS, a ton sould be close enough.
Now how many cu ft of concrete adds up to 2K LBS?
my first guess was 800 to 1000, I was only half way there!
Thanks Guys

DFB · Mar 1, 2001

DDT,

This thread will give you the weights of concrete mix. According to the info the average weight of concrete with a gravel aggregate is 150 lbs per cubic foot. At that weight 13.5 cu. ft. would be 2025 lbs.

DFB