4707 3 Point adjustment issues

[MinnesotaMorg]

I am having issues hooking up a brush cutter I purchased, I can't seem to get the lower arms narrow enough to fit into the slots on the attachment. This is my first time hooking anything up so I figure I must be missing something. I extended the sway bar threads as far as they will go, is there another adjustment point I'm ignoring?

Thanks

 

[Seven Gables]

I can’t tell for sure but from the pics it appears your arms are up against the sides of the drawbar support frame.

 

[Str8 6]

What size cutter do you have?

 

[JWR]

I can’t tell for sure but from the pics it appears your arms are up against the sides of the drawbar support frame.

Yep, I think so too. What kind of cutter is it ? [Love a picture of that too...] Not a familiar looking hitch area on the cutter. I'd bet that the cutter does not meet the standard 3py hitch specification for distance between lift arm pins.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

It's a Baumalight CP572 https://baumalight.com/cutters/en/cp572.php

I'll double check in the morning but I thought the limiting factor was the sway bar adjustment wasn't extending far enough. Actually after doing this exactly one time I can see why people don't like these turnbuckle style ones.

Either way it seems strange, did I mess up royally by ordering something that doesn't fit? My previous understanding was I should be able to order any cat 2 implement.

EDIT: here is a pic of when I was getting the shipping crap off of it. Ill be sure to get one properly if I ever get it attached

 

[Dmacleo]

measure center to center on implement, iirc cat II is just over 32.5 inches.
if that matches then seems to me tractor end.
I have not dealt with a larger tire 70hp cat II model, just a few 32-50hp cat II models.
none of them had what looks to be an addon extension on the lift arms but from pics with the tires on there may be needed.
almost looks like w/o those extensions you could fit arms in....just your implement would be shoved up against tires.
really, with lift arms as tight as possible if over 32" I wonder if this tractor closer to a cat III hitch width wise. IIRC thats closer to 38"

 

[Str8 6]

There's a guy on YouTube that runs that same cutter on a 4707. I use cat 1 and cat 2 implements on my 4710 with no issues. I have the same draw bar bracket and everything just like yours. Not sure what could be causing the issues.

 

[Xfaxman]

Looks like the pin is missing.
Will the sleeve slide out for more holes farther out?

 

[Dmacleo]

keep I mind I have no idea what I am talking about BUT....is the lowest hole on attachment the correct setting for your tractor?
hard to tell from pics but it almost looks like if using top hole you would then have clearance to collapse enough.
just a thought, ignore if way off base.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

I took the pin out so you can adjust the turnbuckle to extend the threads, unfortunately it isn't the style with multiple holes you can pick from.

I measured the inside of the cutter, the hookups have a maximum width of 29.75 inches. The most narrow I can get my lower links is like 30.5" (probably closer to 31").

I guess I'll let you guys judge.

 

[Dmacleo]

from looks tractor end is (if you account for ruler being shoved in a bit one end and out other end, really ruler from even ball swivel to ball swivel is best) 31" min (within the 32.5 spec for cat II) yet the CAT II implement runs 29.75" which is under the CAT II spec.
dont know how people can run this model implement on this model tractor unless mods were done.
or maybe certain year tractors of this model # had different setup around the drawbar that allowed collapsing arms more.
just my 2c worth, got no experience here, just a thought.
but ruler just showed your MIN width on tractor is LARGER than MAX width on implement.
theres an issue....

 

[Str8 6]

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

Yeah I saw this video, me and a friend did our best to go frame by frame to see if there was something I was missing.

Is it possible they just made the implement wrong? I got off the phone with baumalight and they said it should be compatible with cat 2 hitches, but with the max spacing on the implement is 29.75" I'm just not sure how that is right. Thankfully the phone support guy seemed really helpful and interested, he said he was going to pass my information and pictures off to the actual engineers who designed this thing.

 

[Dmacleo]

at the 3.17 mark this unit looks like arms pressed in MUCH closer than OP unit. but the second window makes it hard to see.
this is why I wonderred about model years/user mods to tractor. if the draw bar plate was (example) 1/2" less total width on unit in video vs OP unit....well arms would sit in enough to work.

 

[ptsg]

Looks like the pin is missing.
Will the sleeve slide out for more holes farther out?

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This! Looks like the stabilizers on that tractor as a mix of telescopic and threaded adjustment as well.

Since the pin is already out, I would give it a firm kick as it may be stuck from a combination of moisture and not being moved ever. It should loosen up.

 

[Xfaxman]

What is keeping your lift arms from moving closer together?

The sway bar in the video is pulled out farther and does not appear to have a pin in the first hole:

 

[WranglerX]

Seems to me tractor arms are to wide and will never fit the implement because arms are hitting drawbar bracket before becoming narrow enough to fit implement...

 

[WranglerX]

I took the pin out so you can adjust the turnbuckle to extend the threads, unfortunately it isn't the style with multiple holes you can pick from.

I measured the inside of the cutter, the hookups have a maximum width of 29.75 inches. The most narrow I can get my lower links is like 30.5" (probably closer to 31").

I guess I'll let you guys judge....

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Looking at the measurement of implement in picture it seems to be CAT I

Check the "W" dimensions in document below... Cat II Should be almost 40+ inches... And yes the "V" dimension for cat II say it should fit but tractor design prevents that...

 

[Xfaxman]

Yep, the lower link pin diameter will be 1-1/8" for Cat 2.

Those in the picture don't look that big.

Cat 1 is 7/8".

 

[ptsg]

The Bauma website says it's a Cat 2 implement.