4707 3 Point adjustment issues

[Str8 6]

Chain stabilizers were an option for a while on the Chinese built tractors I know. May be worth the $120 to switch to them.

 

[jdmeth]

Buy a cat 2 bolt on pin, put it on one side. Take the stabilizer off on that side and kick the arm onto the pin and hook the othe side up with the through pin. Adjust the stableizers to center the mower. All my cat 2 farm implements used bolt on pins and in 25 years using 70 hp tractors I never broke one.

 

[JWR]

Buy a cat 2 bolt on pin, put it on one side. Take the stabilizer off on that side and kick the arm onto the pin and hook the othe side up with the through pin. Adjust the stableizers to center the mower. All my cat 2 farm implements used bolt on pins and in 25 years using 70 hp tractors I never broke one.

That is the best "kludge to make it work" anyone has suggested yet BUT a guy with a new tractor and a new cutter should not be having to screw with that kind of nonsense. Make the seller of the cutter comply with the Cat2 specs which probably means take the thing back. Make them solve the compatibility issue. Probably a different model cutter. Anyway it is their error.

 

[EddieWalker]

I am having issues hooking up a brush cutter I purchased, I can't seem to get the lower arms narrow enough to fit into the slots on the attachment. This is my first time hooking anything up so I figure I must be missing something. I extended the sway bar threads as far as they will go, is there another adjustment point I'm ignoring?

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I just looked my 4707 and I found that when the threads are visible, it does not slide out very much. When the threads are not visible, there is a lot more movement. Try turning the turnbuckle all the way in the other direction so you cannot see any of the threads.

 

[WranglerX]

I just looked my 4707 and I found that when the threads are visible, it does not slide out very much. When the threads are not visible, there is a lot more movement. Try turning the turnbuckle all the way in the other direction so you cannot see any of the threads.

Would that not actually spread the bars wider? My understanding of geometry seems to contradict what you are saying...

 

[EddieWalker]

I thought the same thing, but the more I turned it, and the more thread that I saw, the wider the arms got. So then I turned them the other way, and the less threads that I saw, the farther out it slid, and the closer the ends got to each other.

 

[Seven Gables]

I just looked my 4707 and I found that when the threads are visible, it does not slide out very much. When the threads are not visible, there is a lot more movement. Try turning the turnbuckle all the way in the other direction so you cannot see any of the threads.

Congrats Eddie I know you’ve been waiting patiently. They look to be a very stout built utility tractor. So I’m curious what the minimum and maximum arm end widths are when using both stabilizer bars?

 

[EddieWalker]

I just put a tape on the lift arms with the threads turned all the way in and it says 27 5/8's inches between them on the inside.

Then I pulled the pin that holds the adjusting link to the lift are and it all fell apart. I have no idea if this makes it easier to hook something up, or what? Once it's off, the lift arms go ALOT closer together!!!

 

[WranglerX]

I understand the concept of removing pins on adjustable linked and allow link arms arms to move freely, but does that no remove the stability issue of implement that the arms are supposed to create when everything is pined in place by design..... Still don't believe the concepts you presented when threads showing/not showing (the mathematical equation (geometry) of a triangle is completely opposite your presentation) ...

 

[K5lwq]

I think I would drill a new hole in the part that attaches to the tractor 90 degrees from the other hole. Maybe split the difference from the end. That would give more flexibility.

 

[Cherry]

It looks to me that your stabilizer bars are not adjusted correctly , did you take one end off to adjust it ? If it was set up correctly from the dealer then you shouldn't have to take the end off to adjust it. Both ends of the stabilizer should have the same amount of threads showing, then just turn the centre section of the stabilizer to either lengthen it or the other way to shorten it. In picture 4 of the first post it looks like one end is all the way in and the other is out showing lots of threads. The stabilizer bar should work just like a turnbuckle.

 

[Xfaxman]

Both ends of the stabilizer should have the same amount of threads showing,

These stabilizers are different. not made that way.

They only have threads on one end.

Look at Eddie's picture:

 

[EddieWalker]

I understand that it doesnt make sense. I havent figured it out in a way that makes sense. I'm 100 persent positive that with the threads in, there is more travel in the arms to go closer together. I just cant explain why.

 

[Cherry]

Ya I see that now , what about where the bracket that holds that end of the sway bar, is it attached to the axel by bolts and could in be moved inboard more to allow the sway bar to move the lower link arm further in. ? Something isn't right with the set up of this tractor, it should easily be capable of using cat 1 and cat 2 implements.

 

[K5lwq]

I understand that it doesnt make sense. I havent figured it out in a way that makes sense. I'm 100 persent positive that with the threads in, there is more travel in the arms to go closer together. I just cant explain why.

Eddie, if you measure the difference with it pinned I think you would see that the ends will be closer with all the threads showing. With it not pinned you would have more range of motion with the threads all the way in. At least that is what I am seeing in the pictures.

 

[Xfaxman]

I'm 100 persent positive that with the threads in, there is more travel in the arms to go closer together. I just cant explain why.

But is that with the pin in or out?

 

[EddieWalker]

Pins are out. It will only slide out farther with the pin out. You cannot turn it with the pin in.

 

[K5lwq]

I understand now Eddie. I did not even notice you could not adjust it without pulling the pin. I don’t think I would like that setup. I would be looking for another option.

 

[WranglerX]

Pins are out. It will only slide out farther with the pin out. You cannot turn it with the pin in.

We all understand the relevance of that, BUT it does not solve the issue presented....

 

[Xfaxman]

We all understand the relevance of that, BUT it does not solve the issue presented....

I think this would work:

I think I would drill a new hole in the part that attaches to the tractor 90 degrees from the other hole. Maybe split the difference from the end. That would give more flexibility.