4707

[pokey1416]

11 hours on it so far. Seems to be a high quality machine. Handsome tractor too. Cab is spacious. Tilt and telescopic steering column is nice. Still think they could do a little better job on designing nooks and crannies for storage inside the cab, although I do realize this is a little nit-picky. Cell phone holder would be nice. Guess I'll have to get one from another source.

Not sure how the 900x loaders are, but this FL3615 is very smooth. It is very similar in smoothness to our CAT 262 skid steer, which is saying something.

Still aren't used to the 3pt hitch arm controls. I like simplicity and this seems to be too complicated to use. Guess there's a learning curve.

Love this tractor so far. Absolutely love it. Massey hit a home run with the 4700 series (especially the 4707). My local dealer has three or four on his lot right now. They are selling them almost as fast as they can get them.

Use this product for your cell phone. Works great.

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[Boss 302]

That looks like a viable solution for the cell phone, thanks for the tip

 

[mhuntsn]

I just bought an Amazon suction cup style phone mount and stuck it on the rh door and it works great

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

The hundred series tractors (6xx & 8xx) that came after the NAA did have the options of power steering and the x60 (1955-1957), x61 (1958-1962) of each series had live PTO's and the x71 of each series had the Select-O-Matic transmission which is the ONLY transmission available on these tractors capable of being used with a tiller. The other main difference between them was the 6xx had 34 hp and a slightly less hefty differential vs the 8xx with 42 hp and more beefy diff.

After the hundred series came the thousand series, (2000 & 4000) for two years (1963 & 1964) they were the same tractor as the hundred series tractors on the hood design was different. In 1965 the 2xxx & 4xxx were still available but were completely different tractor along with the new 3xxx series, it was when Ford changed to a 3 cylinder engine in the utility line of tractors of this size.

SteelMastiff, didn't mean to hog up your thread.
this tractor seemed to me to be the most I could buy from a top tier tractor company
with all the bells and whistles I wanted for 50 grand.

If I had a LS dealer close by, who knows.
They are easily twenty percent less from my observations.
And the New Holland dealer might have been just fine.

hope the discussion helps to answer your question.

Anyone with a Visio roof have any thoughts? How is the heat in the summer? Do you think it is worth the upgrade?

My dealer has a 4707 in stock without the Visio roof and I am trying to figure out how long the wait will be if I want one with that option.

A local dealer has LS tractors. I looked at their 73hp model (basically an apples-to-apples comparison with the 4707). It was $19k cheaper than the Massey. Even so, hard pass. The Massey seems to be better in every way (weight, fit and finish, aesthetics, cab design, materials quality (plastic), loader performance and pretty much everything else).

Also, I originally didn't want the Visio roof, but the tractor came with it and now I'm glad to have it.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I would have taken the Massey too.

SR

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Some other observations about the 4707:

1. Man, do these tires rip apart the ground they tread on. Wow. Especially grass/lawn.

2. The heat and A/C work really, really well.

3. The cab is surprisingly quiet.

4. The amount of features this tractor has compared to equivalent models in other colors is astounding.

5. Even with wheel weights, it could use more weight back there. I run a trailer hitch on the 3pt almost all the time. It has both gooseneck and regular hitch balls for moving trailers in the yard and on the farm. I'm considering mounting some weights on the hitch infrastructure to add some weight behind the rear axle, even it it's 100lbs worth. It should help.

6. One thing that would be a welcome addition is an automotive style sun visor that can be swung around to the side. I've done some work where the sun was on the left of the tractor and there was no way to keep it from blinding me other than putting my hand up.

7. The air ride seat is worth the money.

 

[EddieWalker]

What do the wheel weights do when moving trailers?

 

[Boss 302]

Yup, those ag tires are non forgiving on the grass. The 4700 series is one nice tractor.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

What do the wheel weights do when moving trailers?

Nothing. I'm referring to needing more weight back there when digging into a pile of dirt.

 

[daugen]

I left my 7 foot rototiller on the back most of the time, worked as a great counterweight. Mowers stick out too far, a flail would
also make a great weight on the back. I never lifted a rear wheel with mine, versus previous Kubota which needed as much weight as possible on
the rear. Mine came with 34's instead of 30's, those rear radial tires had some seriously deep tread. And I had them filled. Tractor had more grip than it needed; made
it very interesting proposition to boost engine up to 100hp since the tractor itself could sure handle it.

 

[backwardb]

Looking at getting a 4707, deluxe cab, Dyna 2, air suspended seat, 3615 SL loader, third function, rear wheel weights, visio roof. Closest dealer, Kioti and Massey, just started handling Massey this year, not sure how long he's had Kioti. Been in business several years, mostly lawn and garden stuff, but is building a new BIG complex to move into after first of the year, so I think they are in it for the long haul. Not sure of their maintenance capabilities of bigger tractors, but plan on finding out. Anyway, they have one, but with 931x loader and no third function and no visio. I'm trying to work out a deal to get it with the loader I want.

I think they are offering only the standard discount, so I called Bruno's today and told them what I was looking for, so I could get a realistic competitive price. They didn't have any that matched but had some more on order. But, not with Dyna, he didn't think. He says he can't get them and thinks they may not be available in the 4700 series any more. WHAT??? He didn't say he was told that, but is an assumption, since the ones he's had ordered had been switched to 12x12 power shuttle. Anybody else heard that?

Would really like to know why short lived, if true, and am hesitant to get the one with it now.

Edit: BTW, Dyna 2 is not an option in the build my massey for any of the 4700 series.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Given that the Dyna 2 doesn't provide a lower first gear (or a lower split for first gear), I'm glad I didn't spring for it. Also, if you want the FL series loader, do not settle for the 900 series. You will kick yourself every single day you use the tractor.

 

[mhuntsn]

Looking at getting a 4707, deluxe cab, Dyna 2, air suspended seat, 3615 SL loader, third function, rear wheel weights, visio roof. Closest dealer, Kioti and Massey, just started handling Massey this year, not sure how long he's had Kioti. Been in business several years, mostly lawn and garden stuff, but is building a new BIG complex to move into after first of the year, so I think they are in it for the long haul. Not sure of their maintenance capabilities of bigger tractors, but plan on finding out. Anyway, they have one, but with 931x loader and no third function and no visio. I'm trying to work out a deal to get it with the loader I want.

I think they are offering only the standard discount, so I called Bruno's today and told them what I was looking for, so I could get a realistic competitive price. They didn't have any that matched but had some more on order. But, not with Dyna, he didn't think. He says he can't get them and thinks they may not be available in the 4700 series any more. WHAT??? He didn't say he was told that, but is an assumption, since the ones he's had ordered had been switched to 12x12 power shuttle. Anybody else heard that?

Would really like to know why short lived, if true, and am hesitant to get the one with it now.

Edit: BTW, Dyna 2 is not an option in the build my massey for any of the 4700 series.

Somewhere on Facebook a dealer had posted due to parts shortages the dyna 2 would not be available till mid summer 22 I think

 

[backwardb]

Given that the Dyna 2 doesn't provide a lower first gear (or a lower split for first gear), I'm glad I didn't spring for it. Also, if you want the FL series loader, do not settle for the 900 series. You will kick yourself every single day you use the tractor.

I was hoping it would be a down shift too, but think I would like the brake to neutral and other features of it. As far as the Visio roof, Bruno's said several they have sold to with it say it makes the cab hotter, anybody experienced this when it was hot and bright outside?

 

[backwardb]

Somewhere on Facebook a dealer had posted due to parts shortages the dyna 2 would not be available till mid summer 22 I think

Wonder what parts might be store stocked between now and then if needed? Unless I overlooked it, I haven't read about defective problems with the Dyna.

 

[daugen]

I was hoping it would be a down shift too, but think I would like the brake to neutral and other features of it. As far as the Visio roof, Bruno's said several they have sold to with it say it makes the cab hotter, anybody experienced this when it was hot and bright outside?

I never had to turn the a/c up past the second position in the heat of NC summer. Might be nice if they put a manual shade on it.

 

[AJKelly]

I never had to turn the a/c up past the second position in the heat of NC summer. Might be nice if they put a manual shade on it.

There is a manual sunshade that comes with the visio roof.

 

[daugen]

I never used it so forgot that, thanks.
I was more challenged by the steel protection grate over the glass roof and figuring out how to wash the outside of the glass. Just hard to get to.

Now I never let the tractor sit out in the sun and started from 100 degrees or more. Mine was always in the barn, warm in the summer, very cold in the winter.
I liked the way it automatically figures out how long to run the preheat for. I would have run it longer...

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

OK, I have to post this (again). I've gone back to the dealer in an attempt to figure out how to operate the 3pt hitch arms in a way that actually works. They had a tech go out to a 4707 on the lot and go through the motions on how to raise and lower the arms. He didn't seem comfortable doing it, as if he really didn't know what he was trying to do, but I nodded yes at the end and said OK, I'll try again. No dice. It's as if the 3pt hitch arms have a mind of their own. It is absolutely impossible to be precise with raising or lowering them. Sometimes, I get a trailer hitched up and everything looks hunky dory...and then without any more input by me on the controls...they go up or down on their own. It is getting ******* annoying.

I've got a steel building that I park work trailers in, and I've got six inches of headroom to spare with one of the trailers. Of course, as I'm backing into the building, the 3pt arms start going up on their own and the top of the trailer nearly whack the supports overhead.

I really, really like this tractor...except for this BS. Problem is, tractors are MADE to pull and the 3pt hitch is fully half of a tractor's capability (the loader being the other half). What good is half a tractor?

 

[str8six]

OK, I have to post this (again). I've gone back to the dealer in an attempt to figure out how to operate the 3pt hitch arms in a way that actually works. They had a tech go out to a 4707 on the lot and go through the motions on how to raise and lower the arms. He didn't seem comfortable doing it, as if he really didn't know what he was trying to do, but I nodded yes at the end and said OK, I'll try again. No dice. It's as if the 3pt hitch arms have a mind of their own. It is absolutely impossible to be precise with raising or lowering them. Sometimes, I get a trailer hitched up and everything looks hunky dory...and then without any more input by me on the controls...they go up or down on their own. It is getting ******* annoying.

I've got a steel building that I park work trailers in, and I've got six inches of headroom to spare with one of the trailers. Of course, as I'm backing into the building, the 3pt arms start going up on their own and the top of the trailer nearly whack the supports overhead.

I really, really like this tractor...except for this BS. Problem is, tractors are MADE to pull and the 3pt hitch is fully half of a tractor's capability (the loader being the other half). What good is half a tractor?

You should be able to turn the draft control knob all the way down and then just use the slide for position control. You may want to try swapping out the top link pin at the tractor with a normal pin, 1" I do believe, and see if the problem goes away. The Bosch three point controls those tractors use are some of the best.