4707

[EddieWalker]

I didn't realize that the better loader had so much more power to it. I went cheap because I just wanted the loader for lifting hay bales. Mostly the tractor is for mowing since I have a backhoe for doing dirt work.

What pressure are your tires at? When mine was delivered, I think the air pressure on them was something like 15 pounds. The dealer said that's to provide the smoothest, softer ride, and that the radials are just fine at such low pressure. I brought them up to 15 psi and I still have some sidewall bulge, but I feel it's just better to have a little more air pressure in them. Your tires look rock solid with all that rebar up in the air!!!!!

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Yeah, I put a little bit of air in the tires when I bought the tractor. They were too soft for the work I do. BTW, now that the little problems have been addressed and fixed by the dealer (coolant leak above the cab, 3pt hitch controls were wonky), I really like this tractor. It's kind of perfect.

 

[vettegc]

Hills Equipment in Livingston, LA has one with the Visioline Roof option. It took 2 years to come in.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

Hooked my Deere MX10 rotary cutter to my 4707 on Thursday. Kicked the pto on at like 1300rpm, killed the tractor. Rev’d it up some more, kicked it on, tractor made a bunch of racket under the cab, threw a code, and kicked the pto off. Called the dealer, they came and got the tractor (90 miles for them) within 24hrs.

They say the mower is just too big for the tractor. Deere recommends minimum 60 pto hp for the lift type mower that I have. 40 pto hp for a pull type. I have a hard time believing that the tractor can’t even spin that mower with no load. I didn’t figure it would be ideal, but thought it would work OK for mowing approaches, and Ran it on a 3020 gasser for years with no issues.

Dealer is doing a good job of taking care of me… but this one has me scratching my head a little.

Reading through this thread but this may have been addressed..when starting a large gear driven pto attachment kick the pto on and as soon as it starts to rotate kick it off then back on. It’s a manual slow start. The pto wants to engage quicker than it can get the mower spinning. I have to do this with my 15’ batwing and 4345. Mows great, just needs a slow start.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

Mine will die sometimes with the big stuff. I get around 1200 rpm engage the pto just long enough to get it moving the back out the engage it right back in while you got the shaft moving and it will usually take on off. Kinda hard to ease it in gear like the old mechanical type but it works. Sometimes it takes 2 bumps if I’m at idle before letting it completely engage

Yup, it was addressed.

 

[EddieWalker]

I've had my 4707 for a year and a half now. I keep the 12 foot batwing on it all summer long so I can mow when I have some free time, but usually when it's too hot outside to do anything else. I took off the batwing last week after one last mow to clean up where I'm clearing land for my fence, that I put my bucket back on and moved some dirt to fill in where the stumps used to be. It's really nice having a heater!!!! I was getting things done, being productive, and still comfortable. I'm looking forward to getting a lot done this winter with the cab keeping me warm!!!

 

[Hersheyfarm]

I've had my 4707 for a year and a half now. I keep the 12 foot batwing on it all summer long so I can mow when I have some free time, but usually when it's too hot outside to do anything else. I took off the batwing last week after one last mow to clean up where I'm clearing land for my fence, that I put my bucket back on and moved some dirt to fill in where the stumps used to be. It's really nice having a heater!!!! I was getting things done, being productive, and still comfortable. I'm looking forward to getting a lot done this winter with the cab keeping me warm!!!

How’s the ac in the texas heat? How many hours now?

 

[EddieWalker]

In 2022 they changed the AC system to one that really works good. Before then, there are some issues from what I've read online. I ordered my 4707 in November of 2021 and got lucky when they delivered a 2022 model in June.

When temps are around 100 degrees, and the humidity is so high that it affects your breathing, I can get into the tractor, turn up the AC to 3 and cool off the cab in minutes. The noise from the fan increases with each setting and 3 is almost too loud to drown our the radio. I've only put it on 4 a few times and its painfully loud, so I usually only go up to 3 to cool off the cab.

Once the temp is good, I switch between 2 and 1. I can't hear it at all when it's on 1, and just barely when it' son 2. The main reason to go to 1 is it gets too cold in there!!!!

I read that tinting the glass helps keep it cool in summer, but there's no need. The AC is fantastic!!!

Today, the temps are in the 40's and there is a 10 to 15 mph wind. We don't normally get a lot of wind here, but when it happens, I pretty much refuse to do anything outside. I've been paying bills and being lazy this morning, but I'm about to head out in the Massey and fill some more holes in the ground from removing trees with my backhoe.

The bucket is a lot smaller then the bucket on my backhoe, which is 1 yard. I'd have to guess that the Massey bucket is over half a yard, but probably not 3/4 of a yard. I never looked it up to know for sure what it holds. The two things that I like about the bucket is the cab that keeps me comfortable, and the 4 wheel drive. My backhoe is 2 wheel drive. The Massey just keeps pushing forward until the bucket is full, no matter how many years the pile of dirt has been sitting there. Same if I want to dig down into an area to level it off and use that dirt somewhere else. The Massey just keeps going, it's power and traction is very impressive. With my backhoe, I spin the back tires a lot when filling up the bucket unless it's perfect conditions. It will take me long to move dirt with the Massey, but I'll enjoy it more and stick with it longer because of the cab.

Just before putting the dirt bucket on it, I put the hay spear on it and hauled a few logs back to the house to cut into rounds for splitting. I have three loaders, and this was the fastest, easiest way to get those logs back to the house.

 

[Gator6x4]

Hooked my Deere MX10 rotary cutter to my 4707 on Thursday. Kicked the pto on at like 1300rpm, killed the tractor. Rev’d it up some more, kicked it on, tractor made a bunch of racket under the cab, threw a code, and kicked the pto off. Called the dealer, they came and got the tractor (90 miles for them) within 24hrs.

They say the mower is just too big for the tractor. Deere recommends minimum 60 pto hp for the lift type mower that I have. 40 pto hp for a pull type. I have a hard time believing that the tractor can’t even spin that mower with no load. I didn’t figure it would be ideal, but thought it would work OK for mowing approaches, and Ran it on a 3020 gasser for years with no issues.

Dealer is doing a good job of taking care of me… but this one has me scratching my head a little.

The Massey 4707 is rated at 70 horse power and 58 horse power at the PTO.


How many HP is a Massey 4707?

70 hp

Engine

Aspiration	Intercooled turbocharged
Gross Power	70 hp (52 kw)
Number of Cylinders	3
Power Measured @	2200 rpm
PTO Power	58 hp (43 kw)

Rotary Cutters usually require 5 horse power per foot of width. If your rotary cutter is 10 foot that would equate to 50 PTO horse power. Now if the cutter is 12 or 15 foot wide I could understand the concern by the dealer.

 

[daugen]

4707 (AU) - 3.3 V3 | 2014 - | Tier 4F / Tier 4B :: AgroEcoPower

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if you need a little more, and are timing out of oem warranty

 

[Hersheyfarm]

I used it today to tow a trailer around the farm. The answer is...I don't know if it is working correctly, but it isn't working the way "I think" it should be working.

Here's why: when you back up to a trailer and raise the 3pt hitch to hook up, the hitch still raises even when you've stopped moving the control tab in the cab. Likewise, while you're on the move towing the trailer and you have to raise or lower the hitch for whatever reason, you might move the control tab just a little bit...but the hitch keeps going (either raising or lowering, depending on which direction you are sliding the tab).

It's getting a little frustrating. The dealer says they've sold a crapload of 4700 tractors and no one else is having this problem. I'm not touching the draft control knob, either, so that's not the issue. I've never had an electric over hydraulic 3pt hitch system before. Is this lack of absolute direct control over the 3pt hitch simply part of the deal with electric/hydraulic?

As far as I'm concerned, it's also a safety issue. You don't want anyone near the 3pt hitch while either raising or lowering it because once you slide the control tab, it's going to do whatever it wants to do and you're not really in control over it.

I think the 4700 have the same 3 point system the 5700 have, and mine is doing basically the same thing. Did you get this resolved? Mine started raising by itself and at one point i just sat there and it went up and down several times. i had been using it for hours and then its started, so its definitely a fault of sort. Here it is on vid from yesterday.

 

[Gator6x4]

If you have draft control, check where the lever is.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

I still haven't gotten my tractor yet, but it did arrive at his dealership. It's a 2022 model, and when I asked him if he did the upgrade to the AC, he replied that it already has the new AC system. But it's also leaking, so he's fixing that and hopefully I'll have it next week.

There is a group on Facebook called "Massey Ferguson 4700 Global Tractors" that has a discussion about the AC system and the upgrade kit.

Here is a copy of what somebody said

"Enhancement kit for 4707 Standard cab….
#ACX3795510 $2165.00 Main Kit
ACT0079330 $143.00 Filter Hsg Template
ACT0079340 $128.00 A/C Unit Template
Should be the part numbers needed for the non-visio roof tractor. I remembered that you also have to evacuate the Freon from system beforehand and recharge afterwards."

In another thread about the AC system, they talk about the heat valve not shutting the coolant off to the heater. From what I understand, you have to turn off the valve so the hot water from the engine stops going into the heater. Here is a video link that one of the dealers made to show where it's at.

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Eddie did they get the ac leak fixed? My 5711 is dripping too. I think it’s the ac lines condensation inside the frame. I’m going to temporarily fix it with screws and rubber washers. Don’t want to permanently fix it til I know how much water there is. There is also a hole in the bottom of ac pan outside above back window that drips on to window. I’m also going to re-run the fender drain so it doesn’t drip on my def pump and keep it a mess.

 

[EddieWalker]

Eddie did they get the ac leak fixed? My 5711 is dripping too. I think it’s the ac lines condensation inside the frame. I’m going to temporarily fix it with screws and rubber washers. Don’t want to permanently fix it til I know how much water there is. There is also a hole in the bottom of ac pan outside above back window that drips on to window. I’m also going to re-run the fender drain so it doesn’t drip on my def pump and keep it a mess.
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2022 is when Massey came out with the new AC system that solved all the issues from the earlier versions. From what I've read, the AC didn't work very good before then. Mine works great!!!

I have a tube that comes out the back of my roof that water runs out of when the AC is on. It's a lot of water, and it's pretty much, non stop.

I haven't experienced what you're dealing with. Have you joined the Facebook Group "Massey Ferguson 4700 Global Tractors"? There are several Dealers that follow it and give advice on how to fix things. Most of the time it's a Code that shows up on the screen, but other times, it's something pretty interesting.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

2022 is when Massey came out with the new AC system that solved all the issues from the earlier versions. From what I've read, the AC didn't work very good before then. Mine works great!!!

I have a tube that comes out the back of my roof that water runs out of when the AC is on. It's a lot of water, and it's pretty much, non stop.

I haven't experienced what you're dealing with. Have you joined the Facebook Group "Massey Ferguson 4700 Global Tractors"? There are several Dealers that follow it and give advice on how to fix things. Most of the time it's a Code that shows up on the screen, but other times, it's something pretty interesting.

I wasn’t a facebook member but joined to try and join that group. Ac does work good and pretty sure we have the same unit. Yesterday at about 84f I was reading mid to low 30’s with the occasional 25f which is probably right before compressor is kicked off. This is with a Milwaukee ir temp gun. This is why I’m rerouting the main ac drain, when working dirt it keeps mud caked on the axle and def pump.

 

[daugen]

Eddie, thankfully my earlier 4707 had zero a/c problems and in hot sticky NC summers only had to go to second fan position.
you sure don't want water leaks where you can't see them. That isn't going to end well.
often issue is just chaff/dirt/bugs clogging up a drain hole, happens in rv's too.

I bet the a/c systems work fine in a perfectly clean world.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

I think the 4700 have the same 3 point system the 5700 have, and mine is doing basically the same thing. Did you get this resolved? Mine started raising by itself and at one point i just sat there and it went up and down several times. i had been using it for hours and then its started, so its definitely a fault of sort. Here it is on vid from yesterday.

Mine didn't do that. What it would do is if I moved the tab "up" a little bit and then stopped, the 3pt arms would keep going up. If I moved the tab "down" a little bit, the arms wouldn't stop until they were all the way down.

You couldn't just move the arms a little bit, no matter how little you moved the tab.

The dealer got it working better, but it's still not like a direct system on every other tractor I've used where the arms moved only when you moved the lever and that's it.

That's my biggest gripe with the tractor but at least most everything else is pretty much excellent on it.

 

[daugen]

I had the same wonky 3 pt hydraulic issue on my 4707.
Truly had a mind of its own at times.
I fiddled with the draft lever, fiddled with everything, really surprised four + years later this model is still having issues.
Maybe it's operator error, but they sure need to make this more intuitive.
lowering and raising a three point has been around a long, long time. Should be reliable and taken for granted, not a source of huh?

 

[Hersheyfarm]

Well my top link sensor is in, I’ll probably change it this weekend. wasn’t planning on plowing anymore til fall but i do have a 2 acre nook attached to one of my fields I think i can work up and plant alfalfa. That’s the only way i can test draft, which this sensor is responsible for.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

I had the same wonky 3 pt hydraulic issue on my 4707.
Truly had a mind of its own at times.
I fiddled with the draft lever, fiddled with everything, really surprised four + years later this model is still having issues.
Maybe it's operator error, but they sure need to make this more intuitive.
lowering and raising a three point has been around a long, long time. Should be reliable and taken for granted, not a source of huh?

Did you not throw a code? Did the triangle flash wile it was happening?

when a sensor throws a code the triangle will light up and the code will be at the bottom of screen. But the code goes away so you need to write it down or take a pic. the dealer can pull codes but we have no way to cycle through them.