A "run" on .223 Ammo online.

[murphy1244]

Wally mart has restocked at regular prices. no ammo yet.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

With all the talk about AR's I just watched a youtube video on the Kel-Tec KSG Bullpup Pump-Action 15 shot shotgun. With the rifled slug/three buck shot shells I am not sure I would just not go with something like that. If they are in your yard or house not sure an AR would be as good. The ability to switch between tubes and shoot different loads sounded nice. They are more expense starting at $1500 from one source.

I agree when AR prices come back to normal (WM seems to make that a reality) there are going to be some sick buyers.

Kel-Tec KSG Bullpup Pump-Action 12 Gauge Shotgun - Gunblast.com - YouTube

 

[Soundguy]

The buyers of those rifles are going to feel like idiots when this all blows over.

most likely yes.. but I can see a few reasons of maybee why.

while an all out 'ban' is for now, less likely, it is very possible that one of the following may happen in the short term.

1, pattern ban, requiing manufacturers/suppliers to retool gns to make them legal to sell, this might include a large capacity magazine ban.. perhaps some prohibited tactical gear.. stretching here.. but say.. double mag clamps or other similar fast reload feature.

2, ban speculation driving demand super high, and supply super low, with manufacturers not wanting to be caught with a large # of product on hand if a ban were to pass.

3, real ban, but with grandfatehring of ones already transfered, and/or, perhaps registration of owned units, and amnesty registration. ( we have seen this happen on at least 1 type of firearm I can think of )

4, worst case, a real, 100% ban with 'confscation', worst case,a nd hard to implement.. most unlikely as well.

of all those listed.. i see 1 and 2 being the 'worry' issues that will keep the local supply / demand market upset for a while. with 3 a distant possibility, but i have seen it happen.

Say 3 occured... and it was an issue where.. if you had one.. you could keep it.. byt everyone else was sol.. I can forsee paying 2-4x the price for a unit to MAKE SURE you had one.

for a person that can afford it.. it's a hedged bet. IF they watn to pay that.. go for it. i personally wouldn't pay 4-5X going price. maybee 1.5 to 2x for a unit I really, really wanted to have in my hand. for instance.. there's a shotgun I've been wanting. supply is dismal.. waiting lists can be near 2ys right now.. i had a chance to buy a new one a whi;le back for near 2x 'list' price. ( no one is selling at manufacture list price on this gun due to 0 availability ).. I paid it. I have one in my hands to play with. it may realistically be 2-3 years vbefore supply catches up. it was worth it to me to pay a premium to get one.. now. not to mention it is a family owned company that is undergoing some social issues and who knows if the CO will be here in 3ys to fill those orders of people waiting in line. my local store has about 220 names on a list ahead of where I had been.. and now, the quoted price is 145$ OVER what I pad a couple months ago when I found mine.. so I feel pretty good about it. got it sooner.. and now.. cheaper. had that # been 5x.. I am sure I would have passed mind you... but I do see where some might be coming from / thinking.. etc..

 

[Soundguy]

With all the talk about AR's I just watched a youtube video on the Kel-Tec KSG Bullpup Pump-Action 15 shot shotgun. With the rifled slug/three buck shot shells I am not sure I would just not go with something like that. If they are in your yard or house not sure an AR would be as good. The ability to switch between tubes and shoot different loads sounded nice. They are more expense starting at $1500 from one source.

I agree when AR prices come back to normal (WM seems to make that a reality) there are going to be some sick buyers.

Kel-Tec KSG Bullpup Pump-Action 12 Gauge Shotgun - Gunblast.com - YouTube

yep.. good case and point there.. keltec suggests retail for that gun sub 800$.. but you can't get them...

I LOVE mine..

 

[Gale Hawkins]

The fact people are paying 200-300% over MSRP is hard to grasp but the fear where with real reason or not never the less the fear is real.

The fact we have to live with fear that drives us to ARM means we are not a free nation in the minds of many.

The fact gun owners are marked on a map and with the zip code system there is little question where they are likely to be boggles the mind. With real threats with someone coming into our homes how many shots can on expect to fire before the threat is removed or the homeowner is dead? Bet it is less than most 5 shot shotguns.

AR's have little protection value unless one plans to fight the governments and in the end the AR owners will always be out gunned.

Those with stock piles of AR's can expect to burn like WACO if they make a stand against the government. At the same time the government forces have little to fear from shotgun owners if they say 50+ yards away and just wait you out.

I think some are thinking about the first 5 seconds without thinking out by 5 minutes, hours or days down the road. Read up on WACO and see how the kids fared. Force never works long term as ****** learned. Force is ALWAYS met in time with a greater force. Read up on WACO if you want to know what stock piling arms can do to your family. There are many other news articles about other men who died when they became a threat to the power structure. Go watch the movie LINCOLN if you need a reminder on the history of the USA government views of these not of like mind.

 

[Soundguy]

AR's have little protection value unless one plans to fight the governments and in the end the AR owners will always be out gunned. .

I disagree with the specifics of this.

An ar platform, is just about the same as any other semi auto long gun platform when it comes to 'shooting'.

If you are defending against a full government military force.. small arms fire is going to get you NOT very far before a rocket hits your house from a position outside your sight range.

as we have found, a set and hold tactic FAILS against any real military force. you have to move and attack / fade g style..

Now.. in the event of an end of civilization... a semi auto rifle seems to be a very good choice IMHO.

 

[Ken45101]

I think some are thinking about the first 5 seconds without thinking out by 5 minutes, hours or days down the road. Read up on WACO and see how the kids fared.

Don't forget Ruby Ridge and Randy Weaver.

 

[Soundguy]

andI think some are confusing a few facts as well.

big difference in joe homeowner with a gunsafe full of guns and ammo and a strong sense of self protection, and a couple of those other situations. just saying.

don't drink the coolaid..

 

[kubota4me]

Just curious.....how many magazines and how much .223 ammo would you have to possess before you would feel comfortably stocked up?

 

[k0ua]

Just curious.....how many magazines and how much .223 ammo would you have to possess before you would feel comfortably stocked up?

How much money do you want to make?