Adding a float function to my rear Remotes for a ditch bank mower.

[4running]

Hi,

I am about to purchase a Ditch Bank Mower for my New Holland TC33D. I have added both sets of factory rear remotes.

Neither lever has a detent or a lock or anything to "float" an attachment that I can see. The handles seem to stay centered and return back to center when moved back or forth. How can I make just one set of rear remotes "float"?

On set of remotes uses NH Valve# 86524700, this valve appears to have the "canister" on the side that would allow it to "float".

 

[Tinhack]

I tried to find an image of that valve but couldn't. The "canister" may be a release valve. A float extension would be on a spool and in-line with it. (Opposite end of a spool lever.)

 

[Farmer495]

You may have to ask NH parts if there is a float valve for that model. I added a float valve to a Kubota, you had to specifically order a float valve and install it, the regular detent valve did not have float position. Both types were fully interchangeable on the tractor.

 

[4running]

Ok,

Thanks! Ill call them now.

 

[workinonit]

Just curious how you plan to use float on a ditch bank mowerr?

 

[LouNY]

Float is recommended for the head tilt cylinder.

 

[workinonit]

Not on mine. That would be a really good way to end up upsidedown in the bottom of the ditch. Can't do that with a Hydraslide.

 

[LouNY]

Not on mine. That would be a really good way to end up upsidedown in the bottom of the ditch. Can't do that with a Hydraslide.

Description of Ditch Bank Flail Mowers:
AGFN takes our AGF mower and adds an openable rear deck for faster mowing when you do not need fine mulching (it is also nice for changing blades) a holder for your hoses when not attached and a floating right side 3-point connection to allow the mower greater flex when following the contours of the ground. AGFN verge flail mulchers are super heavy duty mowers designed for Cat-II tractors. They feature very heavy 43-ounce cutting blades that can chop heavy brush including grasses, debris, sticks, vines, branches, and other wooded materials up to 4” in Diameter.
The mower head is attached to a hydraulic arm allowing you to swing the mulcher beyond your tractors wheels. The head may be pivoted hydraulically up 90 degrees for hedge or hillside work or down 55 degrees for the ditch or bank work. Connect it to our optional 4-way hydraulic control valve with a hydraulic float and the mulcher will follow the contours of the terrain.

 

[K5lwq]

Absolutely want float with a verge mower. Float is not available on my Branson on the rear remotes so I came up with a alternative that works well for me. I added a hydraulic solenoid valve to tie the two ports together on the remotes.

I just raise the head vertical and flip the switch and the head lowers nice and smooth. Then it will float the full stroke. Makes it cut nice and even.

 

[TMGT]

You can add a simple float valve to the lines. 20 GPM 1/2" NPT Float Valve Prince SS-2B1D | Prince Mfg | Brands | www.surpluscenter.com

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[workinonit]

How far down in the ditch will that unit angle? This cutter head floats upward but is limited to going down and it will go down in the ditchbank up to 90 degrees. The problem comes when you hit something solid in the ditch, which would apply to this old cutter or new flails. I have a 10' Maschio slide flail as well.

 

[TMGT]

How far down in the ditch will that unit angle? This cutter head floats upward but is limited to going down and it will go down in the ditchbank up to 90 degrees. The problem comes when you hit something solid in the ditch, which would apply to this old cutter or new flails. I have a 10' Maschio slide flail as well.


View attachment 728756

He didn't specify, but I'm guessing he's going with a side shifting style ditch bank.

Like this one

goes 90° up(vertical) and about 60° down

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[BeezFun]

You can add a simple float valve to the lines. 20 GPM 1/2" NPT Float Valve Prince SS-2B1D | Prince Mfg | Brands | www.surpluscenter.com

Great info, didn't know that existed.

 

[TMGT]

Great info, didn't know that existed.

It does require a 3rd line going to tank so easier to keep it up by the vavle if possible, but when you can't get a float valve it makes life easier

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[4running]

Absolutely want float with a verge mower. Float is not available on my Branson on the rear remotes so I came up with a alternative that works well for me. I added a hydraulic solenoid valve to tie the two ports together on the remotes.

I just raise the head vertical and flip the switch and the head lowers nice and smooth. Then it will float the full stroke. Makes it cut nice and even.

View attachment 728744View attachment 728745View attachment 728746

WOW! I love that! Can I get a parts list? That's what I was after!

 

[4running]

You can add a simple float valve to the lines. 20 GPM 1/2" NPT Float Valve Prince SS-2B1D | Prince Mfg | Brands | www.surpluscenter.com

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So I plumb this into both lines and I spin the knob and it floats? Why would I need a line to go back into the tank?

 

[LouNY]

Look at the volume differences between the rod end cylinder volume and the other end.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

So I plumb this into both lines and I spin the knob and it floats? Why would I need a line to go back into the tank?

If you want full stroke no matter where the rod is extended when you switch the valve. Just as an example, if you have the rod fully extended and then twist the ball valve, the rod will not move, at all. That is why you would always need to fully retract the rod and then switch the ball valve. If you are fine with that, you're all set. Otherwise the hoses need to be tied into a tank port so that the fluid has someplace to flow.

 

[4running]

OK, I think I can understand that. It looks like the guy using the solenoid setup on the Branson tractor, does not use a line going back to the tank (it looks like he simply ties the lines together), that must be why he specifies he puts it all the way up, hits the switch and lets it collapse back down.

Am I understanding this properly?

 

[4running]

He didn't specify, but I'm guessing he's going with a side shifting style ditch bank.

Like this one View attachment 728775 goes 90° up(vertical) and about 60° down

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That's the exact mower I am buying. Do you like it?