All copper ground clamp

/ All copper ground clamp #21  
No I am not mistaken. There are pure copper clamps made!

The reason to use pure copper; best conductor of electricity only second to gold.

You don't want to offer any places to find these then don't bother replying...

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Lenco calls the material that their clamps are made of "High Copper Alloy". Whatever % that is.. 90???

100% copper would be too soft to be durable IMHO. I have yet to see one thats 100% cu. The Lenco's and Tweeco's are pretty well the industry standard. THey hold up well and could double as a hammer if necessary ;)
 
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#22  
Thought I could be a miserable SOB! My friends who have been welding since they were probably in diapers would likely have a good laugh at your copper ground clamp request. If you do all the figuring of the given circuits materials and resistances, I'm almost certain THAT (There I go yelling again!) would make as good as no difference what so ever. Hope you find what you are looking for. Have a nice day.
Thanks you also!
Lenco calls the material that their clamps are made of "High Copper Alloy". Whatever % that is.. 90??? 100% copper would be too soft to be durable IMHO. I have yet to see one thats 100% cu. The Lenco's and Tweeco's are pretty well the industry standard. THey hold up well and could double as a hammer if necessary ;)
Found this claims to be all copper

Weld500 Ground Clamp T-style 300 Amp, Copper by Weld500 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00845QWJG/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_-Mw9sb1JK3Q4B

Anyways think I'll get a tweco or lenco as per your suggestion. Sent from my iPhone 5s 64Gb using TractorByNet
 
/ All copper ground clamp #23  
Thanks you also! Found this claims to be all copper

Weld500 Ground Clamp T-style 300 Amp, Copper by Weld500 Weld500 Ground Clamp T-style 300 Amp, Copper - Amazon.com

Anyways think I'll get a tweco or lenco as per your suggestion. Sent from my iPhone 5s 64Gb using TractorByNet

Interesting.

Looks redder, maybe more copper than the Lenco. Its looks like a clone, likely offshore. I think Ive seen Weld500 branded products at Princess, might speak to their quality or origin.

I dont think youre making a mistake getting a Lenco or Tweco. Only decision left to make is what style to get.

Model 300
LEN02030.jpg


Or

LPG300
LEN02031.jpg



I prefer the first style for its wider, more aggressive pads.
 
/ All copper ground clamp #24  
Alerco style clamps are the HD hand exercisers. I don't think there's a big difference between copper, brass and bronze when it comes to ground clamps. If you have a good ground, you won't have problems. If you don't have a good ground you'll have problems. It's not rocket science unless you get into high amps where arc blow could be a problem. Then the ground clamp isn't the cause of the problem. A strong spring isn't a bad thing.
 
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/ All copper ground clamp #28  
No I am not mistaken. There are pure copper clamps made!

You don't want to offer any places to find these then don't bother replying...

Did you find any pure copper ground clamps, or did they all turn out to be copper alloy-bronze-brass like we told you?
 
/ All copper ground clamp #29  
McMaster-Carr
McMaster lists some at 98% copper. Probably tweco of Lenco Hi-Copper clamps.
Tweco Copper Ground Clamp - 300 Amp GC 300
500AMP COPPER WELDING GROUND CLAMP - Amazon.com
There are some negative reviews on the Twecos complaining about the high spring rate so they might double as grip exercisers.
That Amazon listing is mis-labled, it isn't copper, it is a copper alloy of brass or bronze alloy just like ALL of the other welding clamps and electrode holders. PURE Copper is too soft to use for anything other than welding leads.
 
/ All copper ground clamp #30  
If you're that much of a purist just buy an ounce of silver (about 1"x2"x3/32") for $25, silver-solder it to the end of your cable, and clamp it using an F-style clamp. Add some gold plating to prevent tarnish.

I personally have had good service with my steel clamps that do have pure copper jaws connected by copper braid. Hitting the workpiece with the grinder before you install the ground is more important than what style of ground clamp you use.
 
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Did you find any pure copper ground clamps, or did they all turn out to be copper alloy-bronze-brass like we told you?

Yup;

One by the name of nunaya

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/ All copper ground clamp #32  
I did some searching and I don't think there are any pure copper clamps due to reasons stated above - the copper is too soft. Tweco's clamps claim to be 98% copper. Can't get much better than that. I totally get the desire to have low resistance but think of the whole system. The resistance in a 98% copper clamp will be much lower than the steel you are welding on or even your welding rod. I bet the welding rod itself is the biggest bottleneck to the electric flow as they are small in diameter compared to everything else in the chain.
 
/ All copper ground clamp #33  
I bet the welding rod itself is the biggest bottleneck to the electric flow as they are small in diameter compared to everything else in the chain.

The rod is designed to be that. You want the rod to arc and melt before anything else
 
/ All copper ground clamp #34  
The rod is designed to be that. You want the rod to arc and melt before anything else

Obviously but you only want the tip melting. I was saying you have more resistance in the length of the rod as in back up by the electrode holder than probably anywhere else. Certainly the conductivity of a ground clamp that is gold, silver, copper, steel whatever is a lot better than an 1/8" rod.
 
/ All copper ground clamp #35  
just reading this thread makes me realize why road rage is out there !people on the edge!!!!
 
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just reading this thread makes me realize why road rage is out there !people on the edge!!!!

K

Which member are you referring to and why?

Rock knocker has been "opinionated" but that's all it is his; his opinion!

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/ All copper ground clamp #37  
I think there are people with a chip, and ready to tell anyone about it, that's all. Everyone has an opinion and being aggresive serves no purpose and hinders constructive conversation. and with that, I have said enough and will go back to my listening mode.
 
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I think there are people with a chip, and ready to tell anyone about it, that's all. Everyone has an opinion and being aggresive serves no purpose and hinders constructive conversation. and with that, I have said enough and will go back to my listening mode.

Yup I hear you there!

Must be nice to know everything and never be wrong though...

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/ All copper ground clamp #39  
Unless you are running a Hot Pulse or Twin Pulse 300+amps..The clamps discussed on here are not needed. I use them too but a 250 amp transformer unit does not require anything special for grounding. If you want one it's all good but you don't need it. A $5.00 clamp will work as well as a $50.00 one on a 252. just sayin.
 
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Unless you are running a Hot Pulse or Twin Pulse 300+amps..The clamps discussed on here are not needed. I use them too but a 250 amp transformer unit does not require anything special for grounding. If you want one it's all good but you don't need it. A $5.00 clamp will work as well as a $50.00 one on a 252. just sayin.

Yomax;

I know your dislike of the 252...

Point taken; thanks for saving me $50!

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