Another lackender order placed

Charlie_Iliff · Oct 26, 2002

...that big plate has to go.

When you see mine, a week from Sunday, you'll be even more convinced the plate has to go. It is sized for a skid steer quick attach, and does obstruct your view. As with many things on my list, I just haven't gotten around to slicing off the excess.

Charlie

Charlie_Iliff · Oct 26, 2002

Hans:
Glad it's working. As you have found, you can get used to curling the button with the right-knee lever. It will do everything that can be accomplished with the diverter, just a little slower. I also dug up some tough roots, using the curl to rip them up or cut them. Sure beats an axe, mattock and shovel. If the hoe won't get one, I declare the root the winner and go on to the next job.

bubenberg · Oct 26, 2002

around thanksgiving my younger son will help me .... i hope and i will have quite a few pictures then ... sorry for all the delays.

Carpenter · Oct 26, 2002

Hans, I'm glad the Lackender is working well for you. I have to agree about the large mounting plate; it definitely obstructs the view. It sounds like you had enough power for the 8" bucket. How's the curl speed with the 2" cylinder?

A friend of mine came by the other day, while I was digging out some rocks with the hoe. He was making fun of me, as he had on his trailer, a Hitachi mini excavator he had just purchased at auction. It was a really cool machine, and in great shape for the price he paid, which was $10,500. I was jealous for awhile, but then came back to reality. I only need a hoe ocassionally, but I use the buckets, auger, mower, forks, cement mixer, etc. on the PT fairly frequently. Besides, if I need to dig an 11 ft. deep hole, I now know where to borrow a mini excavator! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Charlie_Iliff · Oct 26, 2002

Besides, if I need to dig an 11 ft. deep hole, I now know where to borrow a mini excavator!

Sounds like just with a phone call you'll have an excavator, with operator anxious to prove how much better his will dig than the Lackender. Be careful, though. Don't brag too much about all the things the PT will do that his excavator can't, or you may end up working all around that excavator that can't mow, move mulch, etc.

Sedgewood · Oct 26, 2002

Charlie: When you see mine, a week from Sunday, you'll be even more convinced the plate has to go.

Yeah, that plate has bothered me from my first look at your Lackender pics way back when. A neighbor just dropped by with a tale of woe about not being able to find anybody to run him a little drain line before freezeup.. Until now I've wanted one to play with - today I could sell its services.

Sedgewood

bubenberg · Oct 26, 2002

How's the curl speed with the 2" cylinder?

a little slower than any the other motions on the hoe but rather powerful when attacking larger roots. i saw a similar hoe from woods mower co. today. i did not like it. the motions were for the most part yerky and slow. it was either the operator or the way they set up the mechanics of the hoe, and he said he paid quite a bit more than i did.

Hoe, thumb, 8" bucket, 2 teeth and shipping to south eastern pa was $1150.00.

Carpenter · Oct 26, 2002

Hans, My 3" cylinder definitely moves quite a bit slower than the rest of the motions, which you know can be very fast! Sometimes too fast!!/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif I timed the bucket curl for comparison: 7 seconds from full open to full curl. I can however take a full bite with the 12" bucket in that time, so I guess it's all relative. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I need to get a thumb, like you and Charlie have. I look forward to hearing more about your new hoe.

Charlie, I already challenged my friend to an equipment triathlon: gravel moving, mowing and digging. I think I can be victorious in 2 out of 3!/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

bubenberg · Oct 26, 2002

i won't post another award ... because i don't like to be laughed out of town like the last time ... my bet is on you. anybody can attain the 11 feet depth of the other machine(especially if you built/dig a ramp to attain the depth). i had to do this last night (not quite eleven feet) to get to the vertical roots, it was just like going to the mines. i dug a path on either side of the nasty tree conglomerate of roots. i dug the ramp at a 45 degree slant and about 15 degrees to the outside ... and whamo ... the roots released ... all along i was thinking that i did this for sooooo many years by hand ... ouch my back.

well, the detractors will say with the ramp system: that allot more hole to be dug and fill to be moved. you are not paying 11 some thousand dollars for a not as versatile and slower moving machine.

the thumb is definitely a must especially for a beginner without the red button addition. there are plans on the net to make them yourself. i think i came out ahead by getting it directly from randy lackender.

pajoube · Oct 26, 2002

Hans,
You and Charlie really have me interested in this hoe. My order with PT changes weekly with the attachments that I want. After reading all the posts with hands on experience from all the PY owners have been a great help.
PJ

bubenberg · Oct 26, 2002

about getting a backhoe, i would wait until Charlies, Sedgwoods and my visit to Tazwell on the 4th November, we are going to check out quite a few attachments ... and this time not just in the warehouse like my two last times. Charlie has made the same statement also.

MossRoad · Oct 27, 2002

When you guys visit Power-Trac, be sure to say hi for all of the rest of us! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Some notes to pass along from me please:

1. Headlights under the canopy. Run the wires inside the ROPS bar on either side.

2. A rear floodlight would be nice, too.

3. You are already addressing the little red button issue. Ask them to conside a factory option similar to this.

That's all. Everything else is perfect. Thanks! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

bubenberg · Oct 27, 2002

Mr. M.R. you are as usual to the point and very cordial. hope anyone else will follow suite and provide us with your suggestions, grips and wishes: such as a new pt model xyz, at no cost and free delivered to your home address.

bubenberg · Oct 27, 2002

her is one of my wishes/addition i would like for pt to consider:

http://www.valbysales.com/newpage59.htm

but if they will not bite or are not interested, i know Charlie, his glue factory gang and my model maker will go to town and we will have a multi directional clamshell type grapple in spring sometime.

let those suggestions come PLEASE!

thanks in advance

hrl

Sedgewood · Oct 27, 2002

bubenberg: let those suggestions come PLEASE!

FWIW, here's one of my first PT grapple ideas. In looking around my implement dealers yard I had my eye on some chisel plow shanks for fingers. Another idea replaces the fingers with sections of landscape rake. And then there are those cultivator tines I picked up for a bucket grapple. So many ideas so little time! My darned thinker has gotten way out in front of my doer again.

Won't the mini hoe with two teeth & a thumb handle most of what we're all trying to grapple with?

bubenberg · Oct 27, 2002

Seedgewood: Won't the mini hoe with two teeth & a thumb handle most of what we're all trying to grapple with?

For the time being yes but as discussed before several of us are looking for more height, more weight and more length of the boom. i hope this boom will accommodate the ditch mower, tree sheer, platform to trim branches and high bushes. if you look at the one picture under:

http://www.valbysales.com/newpage59.htm

you will see a stand which i will attach wheels for the ditch mower attachment (attached to the three point hitch of the tractor) so the power trac only has to provide the transportation, power and control source ... you got the idea on your technical drawing , if you can swivel that thing, we are in business as far as dexterity goes, the clamshell ability is also addressed. my proposal is a minor addition to satisfy my desire of additional length, height and weight.

sometimes you have to segregate the content of the load, so you don't have to segregate it at the dump site as much. for example: your lunch wrappers, starboecks coffee cubs, coca cola cans from your crew, the leaves and the brush, the concrete and the wood leftover from the deck you installed don't normally go on the same pile at home or at the transfer station. to segregate that and load it on a larger truck or dump trailer our suggestion will come in handy ... i think

Carpenter · Oct 28, 2002

, i would wait until Charlies, Sedgwoods and my visit to Tazwell on the 4th November

I guess I'm going to miss you guys by a week or so. I'm flying into Roanoke on Nov. 9th, to visit my family. I hope to make a trip to Tazwell while I'm in Va.; too bad I won't get to meet you there. /w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif

bubenberg · Oct 28, 2002

Too Bad, i think that would have been great to see each other and exchange notes, experiences and just spent a few hours having some fun b.sssing about related and unrelated subjects.

someday we may have a get together a little more organized and everyone can try to get to tazwell at the same time. we will keep you posted of our visit ... i am sure.

hrl

davesisk · Oct 28, 2002

Homecoming?

Hey you guys, BMW has a yearly homecoming for Z3 owners. It's a big party at the BMW facility in Spartanburg, SC, and includes things like dinners, drives, driving instruction, some track time, manufacturing facility tours, etc. Perhaps we could encourage Power-trac to consider a "homecoming" event for PT owners, given our fervent pride of ownership? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Dave

bubenberg · Oct 28, 2002

Re: Homecoming?

that would be a great idea, do you think we could get something together in one year? maybe to start off with we could do some regional get togethers for the time being. have some knowledgeable reps from pt come to those regional pow wows. these regional meetings could be very useful for finding out how to maintain, enhance and learn about those beasties. no offense TBN but at times a pers. visit is worth a thousand written words ... i better shut up ... before i get myself in trouble here.

hrl