Another plow setup question

   / Another plow setup question #61  
I've never plowed freshly plowed ground. Might be as Idaho2 said, there's no solid ground holding the plow from going left?
 
   / Another plow setup question #62  
Mearntain,

I do believe you have found your issue. You have come a long way understanding your plow since your first post. Good job. Now is it correctable, think it thru. Newer share on the rear vs a worn one up front. Or is it a tweaked frame (hope not).

TomNOh,
Thanks for the book link, read this a long time ago and it still applies. This booklet should be a first read for all first timers at plowing. Also a refresher for us old tarts.


idaho2
 
   / Another plow setup question
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#63  
Mearntain,

I do believe you have found your issue. You have come a long way understanding your plow since your first post. Good job. Now is it correctable, think it thru. Newer share on the rear vs a worn one up front. Or is it a tweaked frame (hope not).

TomNOh,
Thanks for the book link, read this a long time ago and it still applies. This booklet should be a first read for all first timers at plowing. Also a refresher for us old tarts.


idaho2

I couldn't have gotten to where I'm at so far without your help along with others in the thread. Once again, I do appreciate it.

As of now, I'm still at a loss and am not 100% sure where to go from here. I talked to a guy at EverythingAttachments today who used to work at Leinbach, and he gave me a couple pointers of where to look. Those locations seem to be good. He told me to check the 2 shear bolts, and to also check that 3 bolts were holding each of the bottoms on. All 3 bolts are present on each and the shear bolts appear to be in good shape and don't look bent (I didn't remove them though).

When looking closer at the plow, it almost appeared that the front share point was at a slightly different angle than the rear. I pulled out the tape again and tried to get a good measurement from the points to the beams, and it's almost looking like the front has a dimension measuring about 3/8" more than the rear. This is a hard measurement to get exact though since the beams are not directly above the points.

Logic wants to tell me that it it should have been the rear having a larger measurement, which would cause the rear to suck more, making it pull to the left. But it seems to actually be the front plow.

If the front plows share point is sitting slightly lower than the rear, would this cause it to pull to the left? It seems to me that would make it want to go to the right.

Something else I noticed - the drawbar is attached to a piece of angle iron on each side, with the ubolts attached to this angle iron. There is a long bolt that goes from one beam to the other on the opposite side. These angle iron brackets are held in place via a hole through the bracket that this long bolt passes through, and held in a pinch type manner by a pipe going around the long bolt and the beams. It seems that some rust has occurred in the left side bolt hole on the angle iron bracket, and allows for about 1/8" - 1/4" play in the draw bar on the left side. Not sure if this would be significant enough to have a negative effect on the tracking of the plow?
 
   / Another plow setup question #64  
Do you have an old farmer living nearby, that you could offer a few $$ to set the plow up for you?

Ronnie
 
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#65  
Most of the old farmers around me laugh when I've asked them about some stuff in the past with these smaller attachments (not laughing in a disrespectful way though). They're all "old school argonomic guys who don't mess with the small stuff" as they've told me before.

Now if it comes down to units per acre with fertilizers or when to plant what and how to plant that, they're more than willing to help me on that, but I guess they've never messed with anything less than 12 row plows etc.
 
   / Another plow setup question #66  
Just humor me. Try plowing virgin soil. :)
 
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#67  
Last time I tried getting things setup a couple days ago, I did try to run it on virgin ground. As far as I know, it's never been plowed before ever in history.

I started plowing the opposite direction on a piece of uncut ground, as I wanted to widen the tract by about 50 ft or so. I set everything up on blocks with the right draw pin flange at 12 inches from the mast. I dropped it in on the new ground, and it slammed all the way to the left after just a few feet. I then loosened the ubolts and slid the draw bar all the way to the left to try to counteract the pull. It helped some, but it still goes all the way to the left (I even tried that second attempt on new ground again next to the previous attempt with the other draw bar location).
 
   / Another plow setup question #68  
Bummer.

Only other thing I can add is I've never used a plow that didn't have a furrow tail wheel and/or cutters. Those with more experience than I would know if that matters.
 
   / Another plow setup question #69  
When it's pulling all the way to the left, how wide is the first moldboard cutting? Once it pulls left and settles in, stop the tractor while leaving the plow in the ground. Measure the width of the first strip of soil it is cutting.
 
   / Another plow setup question #70  
When it's pulling all the way to the left, how wide is the first moldboard cutting? Once it pulls left and settles in, stop the tractor while leaving the plow in the ground. Measure the width of the first strip of soil it is cutting.

Good point.
 
 

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