Anyone have a LED dusk to dawn pole light?

[k0ua]

I am paid to make sound choices. Not everyone is programmed or trained to think like that. I am not saying I have never made a spontaneous purchase cause I wanted it.


We can do this all day, page after page.

Wow! Whew! I am sure glad you explained that.

 

[Sysop]

I am paid to make sound choices. Not everyone is programmed or trained to think like that. I am not saying I have never made a spontaneous purchase cause I wanted it.


We can do this all day, page after page.

I had originally read that as "I am paid to make proper choices, not that I always do, because not everyone does." and thought that's pretty much typical.

The last bit sorta says "I can troll a forum thread all day" but didn't wanna be rude, so I continued on. Once it got to "tree hugger" and tangents about windmills it immediately screamed LOON!

:laughing:

 

[Zerk]

The slow progress of LED is due to the slow adoption. I'm no tree hugger, but I am a dollar hugger. If the rate of adoption increases, so does the amount of dollars available for further R&D. At the rate of improvement in LED tech, as long as everything (including adoption rates) remain steady, by the time that $500 light fails (if it lives near the projected lifespan), you will be able to replace it with something better for less money and the savings over that lifespan offsets the cost.

If I can spend some extra cash today on something to save me a few bucks and may potentially save me some work later on, I'll do it. If nobody ever bought and tried new things, new things would cease to be created.

As far as extra mining and materials, recyclables and jobs...

Drop the whole political rant junk, nobody is here for that. Nobody is trying to save or destroy the planet in this thread and what folk spend their money on is no concern of yours unless you are a communist. The OP asked about LED pole lights.

You must be trying to save energy, because you don't seem to care about money.

The technology may advance. But it may also be it is not for every app
lication. i am not buying $500, or $2k in the last example, for the grand idea I am sponsoring research that may be pay off next time. Not like you are donating to cancer research.

If he is looking for small yard light, then money for LED light may not really matter. But the links you gave for big lights, you have to take money into account.


Companies will invest money into research into what they see fit.

 

[Zerk]

The last bit sorta says "I can troll a forum thread all day" but didn't wanna be rude, so I continued on. Once it got to "tree hugger" and tangents about windmills it immediately screamed LOON!

:laughing:

If you are spending more money on LEDs, then you will save, then I wonder if your motive saving energy, and the planet. Not bad thing. I just wonder if it really is in the long run. I work in the electrical and energy sector. That is why I think about cost to install and lumens.

 

[bcp]

Bruce

 

[Sysop]

You must be trying to save energy, because you don't seem to care about money.

The technology may advance. But it may also be it is not for every app
lication. i am not buying $500, or $2k in the last example, for the grand idea I am sponsoring research that may be pay off next time. Not like you are donating to cancer research.

If he is looking for small yard light, then money for LED light may not really matter. But the links you gave for big lights, you have to take money into account.


Companies will invest money into research into what they see fit.

You seem to take the bits and pieces you want to read and disregard the rest. Like I previously said, I'm not shopping for them. I'm saving both money and energy because I don't mind the darkness. If I want to see something badly enough, I'll go point a flashlight at it. Again, this was all started over the fact someone said (paraphrasing) that increase of cost between LED and traditional lights increases as you move to brighter and brighter lights and my comparison was simply that when you go to the high end some of this stuff, LED and traditional lighting become closer in price, which makes consumption pay off the rest of the difference faster.

As far as how I spend my money, money is a renewable resource as far as I'm concerned. I have my "monthly budget" items, which I will retire with so I try everything I can to make them as reasonable as possible. Once I retire, money is no longer a renewable resource... I also have "things I spend money on", which are things that don't come out of other parts of my income. When I need more money, I work more and earn more. Extra hours, side jobs, whatever. If I can go put some extra hours in to spend some extra to make some type of installation more energy efficient or long lasting so I can afford it and potentially not need to mess with it in later on when I'm retired, I sometimes do so when the return on the investment is worth it to me. Whether it is or isn't, may not be the same for everyone. So if everyone is talking about pole LEDs, whether their intentions are to buy or just research for their own ROI planning, options are good. Nothing wrong with displaying all options.

Companies will R&D whatever makes them money...

If you are spending more money on LEDs, then you will save, then I wonder if your motive saving energy, and the planet. Not bad thing. I just wonder if it really is in the long run. I work in the electrical and energy sector. That is why I think about cost to install and lumens.

Most of my LED purchases have been mostly various lamp bulbs, a couple small PAR38 bulbs, some flashlights, and the expensive ones were included on my Ford pickup. I did also add a cheap lightbar/worklight to my ROPS. The really good LEDs are still pretty expensive for the way I balance my budget. So far the LEDs I have were mostly purchased on sale/discount (even my F150).

 

[Zerk]

Y Again, this was all started over the fact someone said (paraphrasing) that increase of cost between LED and traditional lights increases as you move to brighter and brighter lights and my comparison was simply that when you go to the high end some of this stuff, LED and traditional lighting become closer in price, which makes consumption pay off the rest of the difference faster.

Do you consider needing 4 LEDs to equal 1 traditional light, coming closer?

 

[Sysop]

Do you consider needing 4 LEDs to equal 1 traditional light, coming closer?

Referring back to earlier

Do you need 1500 watts, 150 is probably more then enough for most.

Again, no, yet 40000 lumens at 300W with the projected lifespan could perhaps be ideal for someone's goals.

...but please excuse me for those particular examples being off, I'm fully responsible for the marketing people that compared it to the output of a 1500W halide. Most LEDs do compare much closer on the lumen output of their "Compared to whatever Wattage" figures they state. Go do some shopping yourself and compare whichever specs you like. There are plenty of options, examples, and prices to choose from. They're really not any more expensive on the high end of things than the low end. You can easily spend gobs of money at both ends of the lighting spectrum, regardless if it is LED or traditional lighting. LED is just reaching the point where 'if it lasts as long as they claim, it is a good buy'. As long as people continue to buy, it will only get better. Each of us will join in as the costs become worth it on our own budgets.

 

[TomSeller]

I bought the lower color temperature LED to avoid circadian rythmic disruption since the light shines in the bedroom window.

 

[Sysop]

That's one of many reasons why I like the darkness. I don't want a bunch of lights around me. In many ways I wish it was 1850... (says the man on a PC using the internet)