being a good neighbor--

[RadarTech]

BTW, even high powered rounds don't make "LOTS of noise and disturbance for miles". The crack of a rifle isn't bad past a couple hundred yards...less if there's foliage.

I agree with this...

I put about 15 rounds into a target 2 weeks ago-- a neighbor called and asked if I was busy when I walked into the hosue. I said I was just doing some target shooting... well he gave me grief and said really? must be using a BB gun, I did not hear anything..... It was a friends 30/30!

J

 

[deere755]

wow--- $250? some neighbor!!

let us know what happens..

J

I just paid the $250 and went on down the road. I will not be using anything of his again. If he needs anything of mine the bill will be pretty steep.

 

[RadarTech]

I just paid the $250 and went on down the road. I will not be using anything of his again. If he needs anything of mine the bill will be pretty steep.

ya know, I can rent a 4K mini-ex and the trailer to pull it on for $185 for 8 hours of motor time...


J

 

[gwdixon]

Country folks are more into firearms, so I doubt there'd be a problem as long as TGF uses some good sense about when he shoots (not too early...not during Church services...things like that). And, of course, being very aware of where his rounds go.

Folks new to the country way of living (transplanted city dwellers) may be disturbed initially, but shooting is part of country living. They'll get used to it...and maybe get into shooting themselves.

BTW, even high powered rounds don't make "LOTS of noise and disturbance for miles". The crack of a rifle isn't bad past a couple hundred yards...less if there's foliage.

Come on Roy, we are not talking about occasionally plinking cans with a .22. This is a surveyed rifle range being discussed.

I hunt quail and dove on my property along with the stray jack rabbit or rats (when we raised hogs). This is not an anti-gun issue. It is respect for neighbors, their privacy, and their sensibilities. There are far more open and private places to practice shooting rather than in an area when there are neighbors and there is the possibility (as the OP noted) of shooting someone - no matter how remote the probability.

As far as the noise of a high-powered rifle - when we hunt deer in the Sierra Nevada one can hear rifle shots as much as 10 miles away. People in camp know when someone gets a deer from that distance since that is where our blinds are.

The bottom line is that I would not want a rifle range next door. Some sighting in of a rifle once or twice a season or "blowing out" a .357 every few weeks is just fine. For instance, I throw clay targets before the upland bird season but my place is not a skeet, trap, or sporting clays range.

You are entitled to your opinion as am I. Let the OP build a rifle range next to you since you'll "get used to it". NIMBY comes to mind.

 

[LBrown59]

Well I have been married for 46 yrs. now to my high school sweetheart ...I guess she has tamed me..:laughing:

My wife and will be married 46 years come 12/26/10.
You might call her my high school sweetheart since i met her just before her graduation and took her to her high school prom in 1963 and married her 12/26/64.

 

[RadarTech]

I think the terrain and the foilage makes a big difference here...

On Parris Island, SC with all those rifle ranges and the M-16.. You can hear for EVER! (yea I meant it that way)

In the mountains, down in a hollow-- sometimes it will echo out for a ways... But not always...

In thick woods, it can be muted pretty quick.....



Puzzling question:

If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise?


J

 

[dave1949]

I think the terrain and the foilage makes a big difference here...

On Parris Island, SC with all those rifle ranges and the M-16.. You can hear for EVER! (yea I meant it that way)

In the mountains, down in a hollow-- sometimes it will echo out for a ways... But not always...

In thick woods, it can be muted pretty quick.....



Puzzling question:

If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise?


J

Elevation makes a huge difference. Being above the noise source is very loud compared to being below it. I am not sure why that is, maybe sound waves reflect from the ground.
Dave.

 

[TripleR]

We have a full size range on one of our farms.

My sons are both part time firearms instructors training civilian, military and Law Enforcement. Training goes from CCW to Police Sniper, so guns of all types are used. It is not an "open range", so shooting is usually only done during training sessions. The only time anyone inquired was when my youngest son had the SRT/SWAT unit of which he is a member down to train on transition from the MP5 to M4. They use fully automatic weapons and the neighbor was new, so he didn't know what was going on until he saw all the Police Units. My son talked to the neighbor later and there were no problems.

Some of you may truly live in a quiet bucolic setting, but train tracks run through our property and our road and property is populated by large, noisy machines tilling, harvesting and hauling. Noise is a part of my "country living" whether it be guns or equipment.

I am sure some will disagree; guess it all depends on the situation. This has been litigated in my state and the courts ruled in favor of the ranges. YMMV

 

[TGF]

gwdixon i don't know anyone that moves to the country for quiet, you move there to get away from city folks that want to tell you where you can plant a tree, what color your house can be, when you can mow, how tall your grass can be etc. The country is far noisier than my obd house in suburbia. My north and southeast neighbors both have ranges, and I called my south neighbor before buying the property and they did not care that i shot competitively and would practice a couple times a week. I think you must have conjured up some image of what a survey or a rifle range is that it isn't. A survey simply tells me where my property lines are so I am not cutting down trees and moving dirt that is not mine, I consider that a responsible thing to do cost me a bunch too . A rifle range is just a safe place to shoot where i will build earth berms at different distances rather than shooting into some make shift unsafe berm like a bunch of logs. I don't believe I said my neighbor cut off contact he just isn't using the ATV trail on the range. As far as noise goes I can't remember a sunny weekend I didn't here gun fire (not including my own). Also my neighbor's ATVs are very noisy and he rides them at night, I don't like it but i am not going to be a jerk and tell him he can't. Long story short people move to the country for freedom and to get away from people that would tell them what to do for their own comfort. If you want quiet move to a suburb like i mentioned earlier, it was always quiet because you couldn't do anything without approval. In relation to the OP, the guy that won't let him have right of way, is a jerk, i have to let tractors cross my property at either end to get to their fields otherwise they would have to drive all the way down the county road to the highway. Part of country life is accepting the human condition, being that every human is not going to be in perfect harmony with you.

 

[manganos]

I had a butthole neighbor at my last house. I had the Kioti 3054. He had this old pickup he would load full of trash all year and then take it to the dump one day a year. It stunk, was an eyesore etc. One day I was out dragging the road and he asked if I would pull his truck up the hill as he was stuck in some mud in his yard. I didn't and don't like this guy but I figured I'd give him a hand. I attached the chain to my tractor and he hooked up the truck. It was an easy pull for the R1's and I had him on solid ground (the driveway we both used now). He said he would have the truck out of the way by the end of the day. A few days later it still sat (while he consumed his whiskey .... a real alcoholic). My wife was to leave for the day and didn't want to drive her care through the lawn to bypass his truck. I got the tractor back out and pushed it back into the mud. A towtruck came later and I never had the issue again.