Best all around gun?

[Larry Caldwell]

no metal shutters, because no windows. and most of the bedroom walls ARE concrete.. it's a block home with the bedroom in a back corner.. and there IS a metal door going into my bedroom.. I had the contractor use an exterior safety door with accompanying safety jamb and frame to make it kick 'resistant'.. and yes.. that means the bedroom has a seperate deadbolt too..

When i did up the blueprints with the no windows and metal door and whatnot I got a few funny looks at the county office, when asked 'why', I said.. 'because it's my house'..



soundguy

Why don't you just play Russian Roulette? There's a reason the IBC requires every habitable space to have an egress window. If a fire starts outside that bedroom, it will kill you. There are more sensible things to be afraid of than bad guys.

About 5 years ago, a guy did a garage conversion to a pair of bedrooms for his teenage daughters. He didn't want to get a building permit, so he bootlegged it in and didn't install windows. When his house caught fire, both girls were trapped and burned to death. When the fire department got there they could still hear the girls screaming, but by the time they got the chainsaw out and cut through the outside wall, it was too late.

Don't let your paranoia make you stupid.

 

[DIRTROAD]

So you are going to keep a loaded gun around for an emergency then depend on having time to racka round and hoping the sound if they even hear it are going to scare them away???

Why not just keep a tape recording of a dog barking and hope that works?

I think you completely misunderstood what I wrote.

 

[5030]

Why don't you just play Russian Roulette? There's a reason the IBC requires every habitable space to have an egress window. If a fire starts outside that bedroom, it will kill you. There are more sensible things to be afraid of than bad guys.

About 5 years ago, a guy did a garage conversion to a pair of bedrooms for his teenage daughters. He didn't want to get a building permit, so he bootlegged it in and didn't install windows. When his house caught fire, both girls were trapped and burned to death. When the fire department got there they could still hear the girls screaming, but by the time they got the chainsaw out and cut through the outside wall, it was too late.

Don't let your paranoia make you stupid.

Tried that. Forgot to put any cartridges in the pistol......

 

[Egon]

Maybe think about a .22 auto firing from open bolt position with a 40 or so round magazine.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[5030]

Maybe think about a .22 auto firing from open bolt position with a 40 or so round magazine.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

So Egon, corn or pellets this winter......??

 

[sld]

Does Wrooster have any real world experience with shotguns?

I am still trying to digest the one about bird shot not going thru 2 layers of sheet rock at 10 feet.:laughing::laughing::laughing: or the heavy jacket stopping a 12 gauge round at less than 10 feet..:confused2::confused2::confused2:

 

[Egon]

So Egon, corn or pellets this winter.../QUOTE]

Down filled comforters. I'm out West this winter.

 

[CTPhil]

The side track this thread took to personal defense really points out that there is no best all around gun. I wouldn't want to give up the functionality of a farm gum for self defense, and vice versa.

 

[Soundguy]

In a self defence situation you should always assume that one hand is going to be either busy fighting, holding the bad guy or incapacitated. There for, the weapon should be set up for one hand operation. If you can get 2 hands on the weapon before the bad guy gets to you then you will have time to rack the gun trying to scare him away.

i can, if needed operate my pump one handed. it's not ideal. If I absolutely know I have to go at it 1 handed.. then I'll reach for my 38.. i can grab it without my head ever leaving my pillow.. I actually have to set up to grab the scattergun.

i'm not sure why i wouldn't have time to grab the gun and rack a round in though, as my bedroom is pretty secure, and i have dogs.

PS.. i see some people hear are obsessed with the incorrect notion that one racks a round in to scare a bad guy away.

the incorrect notion is that the sound is the only benefit of racking a round.

what you forget is the primary benefit of racking the round into the chamber is to FIRE the gun, the secondary benefit is that it MIGHT also be a deterent.

lets not get the horse before the cart.

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Your assumption of negativity towards you personally is incorrect. I am just having a difficult time understanding your position on this as it seems very inconsistent from what I've seen from you otherwise. I'm asking questions to get a better understanding of your perspective. If it was someone other than you defending the same position I might just let it pass. Since, from reading your past posts, I expected different from you I wanted to discuss it more.

I have to laugh a little at your last comment. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

explain. I don't see where my opinion has changed any.

retrieve gun, get ready, defend self if needed.

I don't think I've ever stated otherwise.

it's 100% consistant with my previous position I've taken on self defense and firearms.

what are you reading, SPECIFICALLY, that you are incorrectly thinking is inconsistant with previous postings?

some guns I leave loaded and ready to fire... like my revolvers.. or my sig.. it has a decocker... other guns like my keltec, I leave loaded, but no fish in the tube... don't want an accidental ischarge when drawing it.

when my shotgun was situated in a place i had for it other than over my bed, it was live.. now that it sets on a hanger a couple feet above me.. it's loaded but no fish in the tube. will take about a second to lean up and grab and rack it.

that should give me about 59 more seconds before an intruder makes it anywhere remotely near me due to the dogs and semi-secure bedroom. in that brisk amount of time I could have a choice of many other weapons at the ready, AND be on the phone to 911, AND be in a defensive stance behind cover AND then STILL waiting for the badguy to finaly pound his way thru the kick resistant solid core, metal exterior door that leads to my bedroom.. the entire time the dogs having at him and barking loud enough to wake the dead.



soundguy