Best all around gun?

   / Best all around gun? #261  
Good grief, where do some of you guys live? :(
 
   / Best all around gun? #262  
Good grief, where do some of you guys live? :(

I've been watching this thread to see where it's going, Man o man, It must be tough to live in fear...:confused2:
 
   / Best all around gun? #263  
I guess so as not to be a jerk, I should contribute to the original question:

I have acreage but I don't hunt, so guns are for pest control. The two most useful ones for me: The .410 is great for raccoons and the like. It's easy to handle and safe in that it doesn't have much range and it won't penetrate walls, and it doesn't make too much of a mess of the target. The other is the .22 which, with hollow points, would let me deal with something like a coyote at a greater distance (we get them with mange around here sometimes). If I had to deal with bigger critters, I could see adding something with more punch, but for most farm properties in this part of the world, these seem to be the go-to guns.
 
   / Best all around gun? #265  
I'll assume the room with the external door ( not exiting to the side of a house with a pool, fenced in, including the portion the door opens to) passed egress, and the other 2 rooms that had no external door, but did have windows, did not.

they are real picky on exact measurement of the windows for passing egress.. 1sq not enough, or any width or lengthl dimension 1/4" under, and it won't pass.

Am I correct in my assumptions for your situation?

PS.. Mine passed fine.. :).. but then.. I said i don't have windows, and wouldn't consider a window a good egress anyway. that's what doors are for. :)

soundguy


You are correct. The room with an external door was fine.

The other two rooms had a problem. The difference in the new windows vs old windows is less than an inch. More likely a 1/4 inch.

The rough openings for the windows are 4x5 and 8x6. Great big, HUGE holes in the wall. Since the windows had/have two or four window panes sandwiched between a piece of wood, this reduced the opening. This is what was measured. The window supplier said the windows passed code. My reading of the code said they passed as did the builder. The inspector said otherwise.

He won the argument but he is wrong. :p:D

*** I *** could get through the windows either from the outside or inside even if I had to break the piece of wood. A firefighter would have no problem getting past the wood trim in question. The stupid thing about the issue, is that the new window will no allow a firefighter to enter the house any easier than the old windows. They would still have to break the trim to get in. Last time I check the firefighters have this tool called an axe....

I could take out the window trim without an axe.

I am the only person that gives a rats behind about this though. The replacement windows work. They are on the back and side of the house and did not effect the "look" of the exterior but I still do not like them. :eek:

Later,
Dan
 
   / Best all around gun? #268  
I agree with Roy. There is noONE gunn deal. A 12 ga pump for varmits and trespassers and a .357 for a house gun.
 
   / Best all around gun? #269  
My thought too CTPhil, having a .45 in the safe is about like leaving home w/o a spare tire in the car sucks when you realize you need it and dont have it.
 
   / Best all around gun? #270  
Being prepared usually has nothing to do with being afraid.

Totally respect that. But I think of preparedness as having some standard of probability. I'm ready for things that there's any real chance of happening, like a storm or a blackout or some kind of economic disruption. For me - just speaking for myself here - having to defend my home from other humans is pretty remote. I live in a country where there were 554 murders nationally last year, the vast majority involving people who knew each other. There were four times as many traffic deaths. It's just not something I worry about. If I lived elsewhere, I'm sure I'd reconsider, and I certainly acknowledge everyone's freedom to set their own risk tolerances.
 

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