BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem??

   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem?? #31  
Well I wish you the luck that I think is best /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I hope it is fixed, flawless and works better than it did before!
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem?? #32  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Here is my best guess of when it can happen. Suppose you are digging the 4' ditch, and are digging close, and are pulling in and up with the boom and dipper stick. You look down and see that your bucket is not very full and you decide to go down for some more. )</font>

In your scenario, what if you went down with the boom (and the bucket)? This could pick up the back of the tractor and place lots of force on the extended rod.
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem??
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#33  
OK, make it three cylinders. I will talk to Kubota tomorrow and then share what is going on. THis makes five weekend without the operabiity of my 24,000$ purchase. This puts my construction way behind schedule. I think they need to fix the tractor and compensate me for my losses.
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem?? #34  
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OK, make it three cylinders. </font>

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Holly heck! Did you have the camera running like you intended?

What a bummer...

Like I think I said in a previous post...I have never hesitated to push or pull with my BL4690 over the last couple years...never a hit of a problem. I don't abuse it with trying to lift the tractor or do side pushes with the boom...but I don't fear stalling it when trying to break a root or pull/push on a stump.

Did you see the post where someone just posted a pic of a BH90 hoe with a bent cylinder?

Mabye there is a supplier problem at Kubota, and defective cylinders being provided with the newer model BH75 and BH90 these days?

If it was a failure during normal operation, be sure to stick to your guns and get it resolved the way it should be!

Good luck and sorry to hear about the third failure!
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem?? #35  
All I can say is my friend had the same problem on a older kubota unit. After several cylinders they rebuilt the relief valve and no more problems. Dealer said pressure was spiking when it would not release and it would bend the cylinder as there is more travel in the cylinder than movement in the arms. Anyway it fixed it.
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem??
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#36  
OK, I called them Monday morning at 8:15 for their weekly Monday morning wakeup call, and now it is Tuesday night. I had to call them and they said they were going to replace the cylinder again (3rd time in last three uses) and reset the stops.

I am not happy with this reply, it is the same thing they said last time. I also told them I needed it back this weekend and they still have not picked it up.

Any ideas or phone numbers for the Kubota Lemon hot line? I'm to the point at which tomorrow I'm going to ask them for a weekend loaner or for my money back! I am starting to feel like Ramon...
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem?? #37  
I was about to buy a BH90. (There is another thread about a problem with that model as well) I think I might wait a little to see how these bent cylinder issues end up or to see if it is the start of an epidemic. Either that or maybe go with a woods. Three of them! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifThis sure sounds like it could be a design flaw. I hope it works out for you and soon!
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem?? #38  
Being a new owner (17 hours) of an L3400DT with a BH75, I've been keeping a <font color="red"> </font> very <font color="black"> </font> close eye on this thread. Not having seen what you're doing, I can't get any real idea of what sort of action you're putting on your hoe, but I've been digging out stumps by first digging "moats" around them--smaller stumps only require one setup and a 1/2 moat, and then I use the curl cylinder to see if it'll pop out. If not, I switch sides, complete the moat, and then pop it out.

What I've found to be the main problems are cedar and elm stumps. Roots galore! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif The only solution I've found is to keep moving away from the stump until the curl cylinder can break the root; then I move back in and re-start the moat.

In doing it this way so far, I've gotten quick and shifted the rear end around only once or twice. If this is something close to what you've been doing, there are two possibilities: 1. I'm lucky or just working on borrowed time or 2. perhaps your dealer is giving you the wrong type cylinder?

When I went down to pick up my tractor, I took a couple of printouts of the pictures you posted at the top of this thread, and when the salesmann saw them, he scratched his head for a minute. I asked him if he'd heard of any possible defects or recalls on these cylinders and his response was "no, that looks like the results of someone trying to hammer something with the bucket." I am quite certain that you haven't been doing this, but I didn't say anything. I'm still a bit uneasy.
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem??
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#39  
I have dug out several stupms with mine and never had a problem. The problem occurs when digging a ditch in close (dipper stick fully extended) and curling the bucket. I have a ten second clip of it posted on the internet but have not decided to post the link to the group yet (did not want to burn my bridges). I did forward it to Kubota and they said my digging style was normal and I was not putting the unit under undue stress. They said they need to adjust the stops (heard that last time).

I am getting frustrated now because I asked for a loaner for the weekend and they seem to have ignored my request. The dealer said they forwarded it to Kubota, but I have heard nothing. I think they should have followed up and given me an answer by now. I guess it is going to be my responsibility to follow up on it tomorrow. I also asked for compensation for losing my last five work weekends, no reply on that either.
 
   / BH75 Piston broke, twice! Design problem?? #40  
I'm really looking forward to see that clip. I have the same backhoe but didn't use it yet. I must say that I'm very curious and if I can see your clip and do the same thing and if the cylinder bends then it will surely prove something. You can PM me about that.
 

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