Big Bud Tractors Resurrected

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

It looks like a new market is developing for "old tech" tractors. Farmers seem to have reached their wits end with John Deere's vision of the future tractor.

 

[Hay Dude]

Older late 90’s and early 2000’s tractors are in demand.
Older Case-IH Magnums and New Holland TG’s are especially in demand for their simple, rugged engines and transmissions.
Mechanical injection is especially desirable for it’s simplicity and lack of computer controls.

We have a huge dairy nearby (the last one, too) and it has a yard full of older Magnums and Steigers. They don’t want anything to do with equipment they can’t repair or has “proprietary” nonsense.

 

[ddbackhoe]

It looks like a new market is developing for "old tech" tractors. Farmers seem to have reached their wits end with John Deere's vision of the future tractor.

As if all farmers dont have enough concerns with pricing of fuel, feed, fertilizer and equipment lets throw in getting 240 VAC or 3 phase power to our equipment sheds and barns to plug everything in.

 

[oldnslo]

Will this new 640 Bud truly be old school with minimal electronics and sensors? Per the article they will be using a CAT engine with CAT 18 speed power shift tranny. I suspect both of them will require some form of electronic controller. Not sure if CAT is making their control proprietary or not. Doubt this will be your grandpas Big Bud though.

 

[groundcover]

will have to meet emission standards as well.

 

[bnold]

Will still have to meet current emission standards.

But the windshield wipers and cigarette lighter won’t require independent computers

 

[ArlyA]

There are still B Bud tractors in use, being repaired and updated.. Here is one a neighbor to my sister uses in central SD. No video's on YTube to be found on it.

 

[Willman]

There are still B Bud tractors in use, being repaired and updated.. Here is one a neighbor to my sister uses in central SD. No video's on YTube to be found on it.View attachment 780583

Welker farms in Montana run one or two big bud tractors, they have a you tube channel.

 

[ArlyA]

Welker farms in Montana run one or two big bud tractors, they have a you tube channel.

And I've posted them on the "how agriculture works" thread found on TBN. Most of my family is in that busness.

 

[Hay Dude]

Will still have to meet current emission standards.

But the windshield wipers and cigarette lighter won’t require independent computers

Will have to at the dealer. Once it gets to the farm, well that’s another story

 

[Paystar]

Will have to at the dealer. Once it gets to the farm, well that’s another story

Amen to that! LOL

Cat's are easy to "fix"

 

[grsthegreat]

I used to live in Montana near the Big Bud manufacturing plant. I saw quite a few of them working the massive rangeland out there. Those beasts were huge. Have no idea if any of theme are still out working the land.

 

[MossRoad]

Even if they have modern electronics on the engine(gotta to meet emissions), the key is they're going to let the owners work on them if they want to. I think that's all anybody wanted out of Deere.... let me work on my own machine.

 

[Paystar]

Cat isn't as guarded as Deere is. Look at Versatile tractors. They are using Cummins engines with Caterpillar transmissions. Cat and Cummins were willing to let each other into their ecm's to interface the engine and trans.

And I can say......I had nightmares with the emission systems on my on-road Cummins and Detroit engines after Cat pulled out of the on-road market, but now that I am not trucking any more, I am running Cat equipment in the mines and I have had almost zero emissions system problems with these Cat off road engines.
And many of them idle all day.

No, they are not bulletproof, I have had a few codes during the periods of minus 40 winter temps because they couldn't get hot enough to regen, but not nearly the amount of issues I have had with on road engines.
I think Cat has something figured out.

 

[Hay Dude]

Cat isn't as guarded as Deere is. Look at Versatile tractors. They are using Cummins engines with Caterpillar transmissions. Cat and Cummins were willing to let each other into their ecm's to interface the engine and trans.

And I can say......I had nightmares with the emission systems on my on-road Cummins and Detroit engines after Cat pulled out of the on-road market, but now that I am not trucking any more, I am running Cat equipment in the mines and I have had almost zero emissions system problems with these Cat off road engines.
And many of them idle all day.

No, they are not bulletproof, I have had a few codes during the periods of minus 40 winter temps because they couldn't get hot enough to regen, but not nearly the amount of issues I have had with on road engines.
I think Cat has something figured out.

I’ll be looking hard at Versatile if the need arises….
Otherwise another big Magnum or a New Holland TG
PRE emissions

 

[Paystar]

The new Cummins powered Kubota M8 is a Versatile.

 

[Hay Dude]

Yes, I was commenting on how Kubota is using the 6.7L Cummins in their new bigger M’s in another thread.
I guess the Kubota 6.1L 4cylinder reaches it’s max at about 200HP, while the Cummins would probably go up to 260+ in a farm tractor.

 

[Hay Dude]

The bigger Versatiles are using the newer L-9 Cummins.

 

[Sportsman762]

Yes, I was commenting on how Kubota is using the 6.7L Cummins in their new bigger M’s in another thread.
I guess the Kubota 6.1L 4cylinder reaches it’s max at about 200HP, while the Cummins would probably go up to 260+ in a farm tractor.

Kubota utilizes Cummins in their M8 line, the M7 line still is Kubota engined.

The bigger Versatiles are using the newer L-9 Cummins.

Yep, the Versatile Nemesis is the Kubota M8. Kubota is not making the M8, it is made in the Versatile factory. Versatile painted it orange, and made some changes per Kubota's request to differentiate it.

 

[Hay Dude]

Would love to have one of the L-9 powered MFWD’s pulling my Krone square baler

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