Bought Land, Tractor and then got Stupid

[tnhomestead]

Have fun, seems like a great project!
Course where I am we say Permits?? We dont need no steenkin permits!
LOL Good luck!

 

[john_bud]

Buddy of mine built a pole shed 30x40x10 alone. He even dug the holes for the poles by hand. I really don't understand how he go the rafters up alone, but he is smarter than than most....

One thing that you will always have, the ability to look at that building and say "I built that".

jb

 

[rtdiggr]

cmmac the project looks good so far. Keep the pics coming. and welcome to TBN

Shane

 

[LBrown59]

LBrown59 -

I am jealous. I had serious thoughts about building this thing without going through the permit process, but in order to get the electrical hook-up I needed to get the "official" stamp of approval.

Nothing but a fee collection scam. I would have rather just paid up front any monies/etc and signed personal liability waivers and been done with it.

I just finished up wiring up and installing the electric in my little storage building today .
No permit not code no hassle with anybody .

 

[cmmac]

JB -

That is my primary goal with this project - To be able to say, I built this.

(Hopefully, this is not said in front of a pile of lumber that has recently fallen).

 

[denmansoft]

Looks good. I know how an idea can get carried away...
My simple garage got an attic then skylights then dormers.
The only permits I need here are for septic, siting and electrical.
I have found it is best to keep the engineers out of things whenever possible.
I ran into a situation in town where I used trusses( with engineers stamp and all)
The building inpsector said because I used some engineered components instead of stick built roof I had to get the whole building design construction engineered and stamped. that engineer didn't agree with the truss engineer, and he wasn't sure about the ground around here so I had to get a geo-tech engineer.
Its been a year trying to get the paper work sorted out and tonight our wonderful council denied my building permit because of lies from a neighbor!

 

[polo1665]

cmmac
Looks like a great start to very ambitious project. I admire your resolve. Remember, you never know what your capable of until you push that limit. From what I can see so far I'd say that your going to be surprised at how well this project will turn out for you. Sorry to here about all your permit hassles. Keep up the good work and keep the photos coming. I'll definitely be following along. Oh, and welcome to TBN.

Mark

 

[cmmac]

Denmansoft -

I would have to agree with you with regards to keeping the Engineers out of the mix if possible....I can't imagine the hassle of a year's work of paper work. Good luck.

 

[cmmac]

Polo1665/Everyone -

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I appreciate it.

After the intial permitting process, things started to settle down. The next set of pictures are of the first floor framing.

This was pretty straight forward. I used 105s to give me a nine foot ceiling on the first floor. The structure is 2x4 except for the left side wall. I used 2x6 here since this wall will be the wet wall of the structure.

For the subfloor, I used Advantech subflooring and glued and screwed this to the joists. The Advantech was much heavier than I thought it would be. After about the 4th panel, I realized that mistake number 6 was not simply using the tractor to drop all the sheets already on the joists vs having to hand carry each one to the structure from where the delivery truck dropped them.

The headers are double 2x12s. I like the size of them and they also allowed me not to have to cut any small studs (I think called cripple studs).

Mistake number 7 was thinking I could lift a sheathed 16ft wall section. I tried (many times), but thought better of it after having a vision of the thing coming back and falling on me in the process.

Without a boom, I also could not really use the tractor to assist, so I had to use a farm jack to get the wall past the 45 angle (I could then walk it up).

After doing the back wall this way, I went the route of building 8 ft sections. I could then lift this up by myself.

The support boards running vertically in the pictures were there to prevent the walls from sliding off the subfloor as I lifted them in place. I am not sure if this is standard practice, but it seemed like a good idea to me.

After these pictures were taken, I finished sheathing the entire first floor walls and added the top plate.

The framing in the pictures took we 3.5 full days to complete. I am learning to work a little smarter, but am still in no rush and find myself doing some repetitive tasks that I am sure professionals would not do more than once.

At the present time, I am not too much further along. (Beginning the second floor framing). I will add some pictures of the second floor joists later today.

 

[EddieWalker]

The framing looks real good. You shouldn't knock yourself or compare yourself to what the pros do. I do this for a living and can tell you that allot of the so called pros don't work very efficiently. Instead, they like to cut corners and work as little as possible. Four hour days are not uncommon!!! I've seen three and four man crews on a house where one is cutting boards, the other is installing them and the others are watching. It kills me to see guys just watching others work, but it seems the more you have on a crew, the more watching that goes on.

Working alone, you set your pace, you take care of all the small details and you get to make sure it's all done right. In the end, you will have a better built building this way and not have to deal with something that was forgotten or just plain not done.

Thanks for the pictures, I'm enjoying them allot.

Eddie