Brother n' law says off road diesel is bad

jsborn · Nov 29, 2007

Well to answer the question as to why my BIL is smarter than his BIL (me).
Its because he lived with my wife 20 years longer than I have and had the benefit of her teaching .

I would think that is the case in most families

LBrown59 · Nov 29, 2007

RobJ said:
It won't matter after 2012.

Why won't it matter?

SkyPup · Nov 29, 2007

LBrown59 said:
Why won't it matter?

Simply because you will no longer have any choice as there will be no Red Dye Off Road fuel available anymore, only ULSD will be available for On Road and Off Road.

What will you do then, add some elemental sulfur and some red dye for nostalgic effect?

LBrown59 · Nov 29, 2007

SkyPup said:
only ULSD will be available for On Road and Off Road.

What will you do then, add some elemental sulfur and some red dye for nostalgic effect?

So no more home heating fuel oil eithr rite?

cp1969 · Nov 29, 2007

It will be, for all of us, as it is for you now; the same stuff only called different names. i.e. On road--no dye. Off road--dyed. Furnace oil -- dyed, but all ULSD regardless of whether or not it is dyed.

LBrown59 · Nov 29, 2007

cp1969 said:
It will be, for all of us, as it is for you now; the same stuff only called different names. i.e. On road--no dye. Off road--dyed. Furnace oil -- dyed, but all ULSD regardless of whether or not it is dyed.

Makes sense to me.
I never could see the object of having a half dozen concoctions when one would do everything anyway.

MikePA · Nov 30, 2007

LBrown59 said:
To do anything else is an unethical business practice in my book.

Since when is it unethical for a business to set a price for a product they sell??? As FWJ said, if you don't like the price, shop somewhere else.

LBrown59 · Nov 30, 2007

MikePA said:
Since when is it unethical for a business to set a price for a product they sell??? .

It's not but the problem here is the tax issue not the product price.

MikePA · Nov 30, 2007

LBrown59 said:
It's not but the problem here is the tax issue not the product price.

No, it's not. Based on what you wrote

LBrown59 said:
If they can give the Gov. this money on the taxed stuff then they owe you this same money on the no tax stuff.

you seem to think that if there's a 40 cent tax difference between on and off road diesel this price difference should be reflected in the retail price.

Ford850 · Nov 30, 2007

LBrown59,
You are missing their point. The dealer is buying 2 different products, priced differently, BEFORE taxes. If the dealer is paying less for On Road than Off Road, then when he adds the tax for On Road it is only slightly more than the Off Road price. In that case the consumer will not see a price difference equal to the tax difference.
The dealer is not getting volume discounts for Off Raod since he sells so little of it. Pays more for the product but doesn't add tax so it still equals a slightly better deal for the consumer. If you have a dealer who sells a lot of Off Road, then you will see a greater difference in price.