Building your own trailer????????

[LBrown59]

1*The mobile home use only tires are junk (for a trailer that is used frequently) and will earn you a fine around these parts.

2*But you can replace them with Load King LowBoy heavy duties (AN excellent DOT tire)

rdln
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1*What is the reason for the fine? Must be a revenue generator.
Just because they're regulators doesn't mean they're right.
In fact that usually means just the opposite.
How do they know how often you're using a trailer?
2* Wonder how these tires would perform on mobile homes used over and over again?


How do yo define frequently?
Would that be miles traveled ot number of trips out?

 

[Bird]

LB, I read about the lawsuits over removing the wheels and axles in an AARP publication and believe it was the truth, but I don't have absolute proof. I don't recall there being any distinction between double wides vs. single wides.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( This probably happened with doublewides as usually the wheels tires and axles remain with single wides. Anyone would be foolish to purchase a single wide if they weren't permitted to keep the wheels tires and axles )</font>

I bought a new double wide in '97 and the contract I had to sign specifically stated that the tires, wheels, axles, and springs would be removed and were not included in the sale. However, I'm now living in a '97 single wide, in a mobile home park, that I bought about a year and a half ago and there are no wheels or axles under it. I have seen at least 3 single wides and one double wide moved out of the park in the past year, and at least 7 single wides moved into the park in that time (at least 5 of the ones moving into the park are new ones owned by the park - rental units) and none of them have the axles under them, but maybe that's because the lease agreement requires that the hitch and axles be removed.

When my parents bought a new single wide on the Texas coast in '91, the wheels and axles were left under it. It was in a park that had both mobile homes and RVs. And when we had it moved from the Texas coast to Navarro County 4 years later, the electric co-op said they would not provide electrical service unless the wheels and axles were removed because they'd done that in the past and too often the trailer didn't stay long enough for them to recoup their costs of doing the installation. It was admittedly one person at the co-op office who told me that so I can't prove that person didn't make a mistake. We had the axles removed, but kept them, so when I later sold the trailer, the buyer got them put back on to move it.

And when we moved it to Navarro County, my independent insurance agent said he could not get one insured with the axles still on it, and I did not shop with other agents because only 3 months before I had checked with 4 other insurance companies in the county who refused to insure mobile homes under any circumstances.

So you may be right; if you spend enough money I suppose you could get anything insured, and perhaps with a big enough deposit and/or installation fee, you could get electrical service.

So, I'll happily concede the fact that you may know more than I do about mobile homes, but I also know that there are state laws that vary in different parts of the country, so anyone buying a mobile home had better check with local licensed people instead of someone licensed in another state.

 

[bobodu]

Well..this has been some interesting reading.Certainly more...umm...frisky(?) than usual.There were enough valid points made on both sides of the ditch.Chance taking has never been one of my fortes (I don't even buy lottery tickets).If this ever gets on my to do list.I gonna buy,find or permanently borrow..axles!

 

[cleatus]

I have several trailers with moble home axels, most of them have moble only tires and wheels but I'm concidering buying replacement hubs that allow use of auto wheels and tires. I have found some local manufactors that will build axels to size with choice of hubs for less than TSC.

 

[Inspector507]

Bird,
I lived in a mobile home park for 13 years. "Someone" came around asking all the residents if we wanted to sell the axles, tires and springs to them. They sent them back to "the plant" to be re-used on new homes. In their paperwork it stated that if we ever needed to borrow a set to move the moblie, all we had to do was call their 1-800# and within 3-5 days, we'd have a set installed that we could use for 30 days. That $150 looked real good at the time. Of course I jumped on the offer and the axles, etc were removed the next day.
2weeks later we got a notice from the park management that if we didn't get the axles, etc back underneath in 30 days, the home had to be moved out. Seems it is a violation of the local Health Codes to have a mobile home in a park setting, that was no longer "mobile". /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Cost me $200 to get my original set-up back.

 

[Bird]

Jerry, from what I read in that AARP magazine, you were very lucky to only lose $50. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'm sure the "rules" vary in different states. When we moved my parents' mobile home in '95, I think I was offered $160 for the two axles, tires, springs, etc. so I decided to just keep them, and was glad I did when I sold the mobile home.

 

[LBrown59]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Jerry, from what I read in that AARP magazine, you were very lucky to only lose $50. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'm sure the "rules" vary in different states. When we moved my parents' mobile home in '95, I think I was offered $160 for the two axles, tires, springs, etc. so I decided to just keep them, and was glad I did when I sold the mobile home. )</font>

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One should never surrender these items unless they are on a doublewide and you're quite sure the set up is permanent and the home will never be moved.

You should always keep these things for a single wide as almost certainly someone will need them in the future as the home will have to be moved some time later.

It's your option to remove them from either home; but just because they are removed don't mean that you have to or should give them up.

I sucribe to the AARP magazine, but I don't recall ever seeing anything about this in there.
Could you please tell me what issue the article was in.
I sure would like to read it, so perhaps I can get a better grasp of what went on here.

 

[LBrown59]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Bird,
I lived in a mobile home park for 13 years. "Someone" came around asking all the residents if we wanted to sell the axles, tires and springs to them. They sent them back to "the plant" to be re-used on new homes. In their paperwork it stated that if we ever needed to borrow a set to move the moblie, all we had to do was call their 1-800# and within 3-5 days, we'd have a set installed that we could use for 30 days. That $150 looked real good at the time. Of course I jumped on the offer and the axles, etc were removed the next day.
2weeks later we got a notice from the park management that if we didn't get the axles, etc back underneath in 30 days, the home had to be moved out. Seems it is a violation of the local Health Codes to have a mobile home in a park setting, that was no longer "mobile". /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Cost me $200 to get my original set-up back. )</font>

1*2weeks later we got a notice from the park management that if we didn't get the axles, etc back underneath in 30 days, the home had to be moved out.
2*Seems it is a violation of the local Health Codes to have a mobile home in a park setting, that was no longer "mobile".
Inspector507
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1*O what wise managers. I would never have guessed that the best time to move one is when it doesn't have any wheels.
2*Let's hear it for the health officals. Everybody should know that taking off the wheels causes Cancer Hart disease and a whole host of other dreaded diseases.
Wouldn't want an epidemic of any of these illness to spread through and wipe out every one in the park because some body took the wheels off their MH.

 

[Bird]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Could you please tell me what issue the article was in )</font>

Sorry, but no, I can't. I can't even remember whether it was in the AARP Magazine or the AARP Bulletin, and don't know whether it could be found on their website or not. It's not worth hunting for, though, in my opinion, since I really don't care whether you believe it or not. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I just know it was sometime between 1995 and April, 1997, because I thought about it when I bought that new double wide, and sure enough the contract specifically said the wheels and axles would not belong to me. And I'm pretty sure that most of the examples given in the article were about it happening in Florida. It was simply a matter of the wheels and axles being removed, home owners being told it wouldn't cost much if they needed axles to move the home in the future, and then they were charged exorbitant amounts when they wanted to move.

 

[bobodu]

Those "same" fellas came through the park I lived in twenty years ago...with the same results.Fort Wayne,Indiana. We didn't sell either....and word got around pretty quick.Luckily before too many people got taken. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[LBrown59]

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( LB, I read about the lawsuits over removing the wheels and axles in an AARP publication and believe it was the truth, but I don't have absolute proof. I don't recall there being any distinction between double wides vs. single wides.

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( This probably happened with doublewides as usually the wheels tires and axles remain with single wides. Anyone would be foolish to purchase a single wide if they weren't permitted to keep the wheels tires and axles )</font>

I bought a new double wide in '97 and the contract I had to sign specifically stated that the tires, wheels, axles, and springs would be removed and were not included in the sale. However, I'm now living in a '97 single wide, in a mobile home park, that I bought about a year and a half ago and there are no wheels or axles under it. I have seen at least 3 single wides and one double wide moved out of the park in the past year, and at least 7 single wides moved into the park in that time (at least 5 of the ones moving into the park are new ones owned by the park - rental units) and none of them have the axles under them, but maybe that's because the lease agreement requires that the hitch and axles be removed.

When my parents bought a new single wide on the Texas coast in '91, the wheels and axles were left under it. It was in a park that had both mobile homes and RVs. And when we had it moved from the Texas coast to Navarro County 4 years later, the electric co-op said they would not provide electrical service unless the wheels and axles were removed because they'd done that in the past and too often the trailer didn't stay long enough for them to recoup their costs of doing the installation. It was admittedly one person at the co-op office who told me that so I can't prove that person didn't make a mistake. We had the axles removed, but kept them, so when I later sold the trailer, the buyer got them put back on to move it.

And when we moved it to Navarro County, my independent insurance agent said he could not get one insured with the axles still on it, and I did not shop with other agents because only 3 months before I had checked with 4 other insurance companies in the county who refused to insure mobile homes under any circumstances.

So you may be right; if you spend enough money I suppose you could get anything insured, and perhaps with a big enough deposit and/or installation fee, you could get electrical service.

So, I'll happily concede the fact that you may know more than I do about mobile homes, but I also know that there are state laws that vary in different parts of the country, so anyone buying a mobile home had better check with local licensed people instead of someone licensed in another state. )</font>
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So, I'll happily concede the fact that you may know more than I do about mobile homes, but I also know that there are state laws that vary in different parts of the country,
* so anyone buying a mobile home had better check with local licensed people instead of someone licensed in another state.
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*I may be licensed in another state but I still know what is ethical customer treatment and what isn't in any state.
Looks like my advice would have been better than the advice the folks who sued on this issue got from their local licensed Fl. dealers.LOL

 

[LBrown59]

1*It's not worth hunting for, though, in my opinion, since I really don't care whether you believe it or not. <
2* It was simply a matter of the wheels and axles being removed, home owners being told it wouldn't cost much if they needed axles to move the home in the future, and then they were charged exorbitant amounts when they wanted to move.
Bird
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1*It's not a question of me believing it or not, it's the matter of my reading the article to assure my self that I'm not making incorrect assumptions concerning the incident.
It's been my experience that many if not most negative articles concerning MHs are loaded with misinformation incomplete facts twisted logic, etc.,
2*I don't know if the folks that this happened to knew it or not but they did not have to replace the wheels tires and axles by buying them from the dealer who sold them the home.

Not to be knocking AARP & I am a member of AARP;
but I have read articles of theirs about insurance credit issues and other such topics that were full of miss information and false assumptions, which reveals to me they either don't have all the facts or prefer not to disclose them.
Like I said I'm not just picking On AARP as I have seen Readers Digest and other magazines, newspapers TV and radio do the same thing.
As a result I've learned to take what's said in such articles with a grain of salt.

When you see such articles that don't line up with the facts it can only be because those publishing the article are ill informed or they chose not to disclose the whole truth and all of the facts..

Peole as a whole are very gullable and will accep what's said in such artiles as gospel.
My 31 years of experince has tought me not to be so guallable dig for the truth examane the posibilities view all the angles then decide it it's true or not.

 

[rdln]

The reason for the fine is to have a deterrant from doing something illegal, otherwise the law would only have confiscation and incarceration tools to work with.

These tires would perform very well and would outlast 4 MHO tires due to tread depth, compound durometer and sidewall strength.

I would define frequent use as over about 1000 miles a year.

 

[LBrown59]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( This probably happened with doublewides as usually the wheels tires and axles remain with single wides. Anyone would be foolish to purchase a single wide if they weren't permitted to keep the wheels tires and axles )</font>

I bought a new double wide in '97 and the contract I had to sign specifically stated that the tires, wheels, axles, and springs would be removed and were not included in the sale. However, I'm now living in a '97 single wide, in a mobile home park, that I bought about a year and a half ago and there are no wheels or axles under it. I have seen at least 3 single wides and one double wide moved out of the park in the past year, and at least 7 single wides moved into the park in that time (at least 5 of the ones moving into the park are new ones owned by the park - rental units) and none of them have the axles under them, but maybe that's because the lease agreement requires that the hitch and axles be removed.




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but maybe that's because the lease agreement requires that the hitch and axles be removed.
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That could be right.
If this is what happened in the AARP article The homeowners quarrel would be with the park not the manufacturer dealer or the set up company.

Sure would like to read that article so I might get a better feel of what the read deal on this was.

 

[LBrown59]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( 1*The reason for the fine is to have a deterrant from doing something illegal, otherwise the law would only have confiscation and incarceration tools to work with.


2*I would define frequent use as over about 1000 miles a year.
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1*I get that but I have nothing good to say about any law created for the sole purpose of revenue generating. This law in my opinion is for the sake of collecting money rather than a law that serves a legitimate purpose.

2*So then how can you tell how many miles a year is being put on a trailer?

 

[JD3130]

Read all these posts with interest. I can only add this. I built my first trailer from mobile home axles 35 years, so old it has split rims. It's still in the family and going strong. I have built over 50+ since then, mostly dual axle, a few with 3. Pull behind and goose necks up to 26 ft. My favorite is a all metal 18 ft with sides that has been from CA to Ny a doz times, from VA to WA more times than I can count and from VA to TX many times. Probably has 200,000 miles on it. I had no trouble replacing the brakes with Hasley parts, I only use the orginal tires for spares. My local farm coop gets me low-boy tires 18 ply for about 140.00. They dry rot before they wear out. I run 95-100PSI in them. Same with my cattle trailer. I repack the wheel bearings every 2 years. I did stop using the mobile hitch in the 90's they turned cheap. When I retired, it was getting harder to find trailer axles that had multi springs. Hope this helps. PS, I purchased a trailer for my Mom in 2002 a single. It came with axles and 5 wheels (movers used one of theirs) and no hitch. I found a double wide nearby that had one. The owner let me have it for removing it. Was glad to get rid of it. Nothing about any rules or laws?? I would feel much safer with those than a boat trailer axles, unless they were from a 40 footer or something"